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I, too, am offended by people wanting control over their own deaths.

They should die when and how I tell them to die, not die with dignity at a time of their choosing!



I don't think you realize that euthanasia isn't always voluntary.


Involuntary euthanasia is called murder, and that's already illegal.


There are several forms of euthanasia. Involuntary euthanasia (against the will of the patient) is something most people would agree is wrong and this roller coaster would unlikely be able to be used for it.


Wouldn't "Involuntary euthanasia" just be murder?


Yes, I think so. Although when discussing euthanasia the distinction is probably made because if involuntary euthanasia were legal there would likely be a list of specific reasons you can do it (therefore drawing a distinction between involuntary euthanasia and murder).


There is no such thing as death with dignity. The body is always corrupted. "Death with dignity" is a silly loaded catchphrase designed to put opponents off balance, and is offensive to those who have chosen to die another way - some might say, with courage.


I find it particularly galling that "Death with dignity" is "a silly loaded catchphrase designed to put opponents off balance" and yet "Death with courage" is something you throw in to support that belief. You need to take a moment to listen to your own rhetoric and think about the people your opinions effect.


Let me make it clear: I am not in the least bit interested in your moral judgement of my beliefs, nor am I interested in your advice regarding my rhetoric.


Of course you are. Otherwise you'd be quietly secure in the knowledge of your own rightness, not trying to pick fights about it on the internet.


Nor are the people who would choose to be euthanized interested in your beliefs. That's their point.


You've said "those who have chosen to die another way," but people don't have that choice and are forbidden from making it. While you're opposed to euthanasia, would you be okay with giving people the option for euthanasia if they so chose?


> The body is always corrupted.

But what of the mind? It's the aspect of choice that lends anything its dignity. Being at peace with your decision. Some people find a measure of dignity in dying naturally, it's in accord with their wishes in that respect. Others don't.

To deny those who are not at peace with it that choice robs them of some of their dignity.

I remember my grandfather dying when I was a teenager, in the hospital he was pleading with everyone around him to kill him. I feel guilty for not doing it whenever I think about him. The one thing the poor bastard wanted, the only thing left anyone could give him.

I can't hold it against him, it's not his fault. When people are suffering that much, they're not really thinking about whether they're asking a child to kill them. But he could have gone weeks earlier, could have been in a position to make the decision for himself rather than being reduced to begging.

He could have been spared that, there'd have been more dignity in it.


There is no such thing as death with dignity. But there are different grades of death with indignity.

And I am free to choose how when (hopefully in a long long time) it comes to that...


> There is no such thing as death with dignity. The body is always corrupted.

Okay! If my inevitable death is going to be corrupt and undignified no matter what I do, then it's a no-brainer to make it quick and painless rather than drawn-out and agonizing.


Oh dear. I've really offended the Silicon Valley Suicide Gods. Be it known that merely having certain unpopular opinions about life issues is an instant 30+ karma hit.


Yeah, the rough thing about free speech is that, sometimes, people disagree with you.


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