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Ok, not saying that Obama has been 100% perfect in his presidency so far, but are you really implying that he's been an awful president?

He's kept a lot of his promises: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

Not to mention major wins in healthcare, Iraq, and avoiding the major impending economic collapse that was in place when he took office.

He's no saint, and I'm as pissed as anyone about the illegal wiretapping that happened under his administration. But keep in mind that no major politician will agree 100% with your views. And no president can or will keep 100% of his promises considering this shifting political climate and his limited powers in our government.



>Ok, not saying that Obama has been 100% perfect in his presidency so far, but are you really implying that he's been an awful president?

Yes, yes I am. And if I thought I had any chance of convincing someone who still promotes Obama's "wins" at this point in his presidency, I'd argue it with you. But I don't.

I will leave you with one thought, which is that it's not even the blanket surveillance of the American people that's been Obama's most horrific failure, it's this:

1. http://www.salon.com/2010/04/07/assassinations_2/

2. http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/09/obama-assassin...

Finally, I'd like to point out that I'm not the one downvoting you (since you're making points I disagree with in good faith).


"...are you really implying that he's been an awful president?"

Every president in the modern context has been and will be awful, even if to somewhat varying degrees. The problem is not the people in office, it's the office itself. It's important that the media emphasize personalities and the infinitesimal differences between them, so the average citizen can make-believe that some presidents are better than others.




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