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I have to say the pay is by no way "spoiling". It is no where near the top tier pay (for interns) seen in the industry.


A furnished apartment in NYC probably adds a lot to that salary. The unfortunate part is that the cost of that benefit is also considered income and the taxes for it would come out of the $6K. I interned at Microsoft years ago with similar benefits (good salary, furnished apartment, prepaid rental car, relocation costs & 2 gym memberships) but they paid extra cash to cover the taxes on the non-monetary benefits.

There's no way I would've turned down the Fog Creek opportunity back then, though, it sounds like a very well planned program at an awesome company. There were many internships in the Philadelphia area, for developers, that paid half that salary with no perks on top of the pay at all. On the other hand, the interview process at nearly all the companies consisted of sending a resume and sitting down for 30 minutes to talk about past experience. I interviewed at 4-6 companies a year to get my 3 internships, with a ~75% acceptance rate (offered the internship), and not one involved multiple interviews or a single code screen. The west coast interview process just doesn't exist out here.


I had the exact same experience with interviews in the Midwest. Nothing rigorous at all, very high offer rate, and about half the compensation. I made a more in-depth comment, but just wanted to note that.


I lived in the same place they put their interns for a summer, it's decent and costs ~4,000 for the entire summer, which definitely adds to the cost.


It's not that far off the top tier pay for tech companies. Glassdoor compiled their list for 2014, and it's not too inaccurate [1]. Speaking from personal experience, the numbers for SWE undergrads for some of the companies on the list this year:

Palantir - 7,500 - 1,200 for housing if you choose

Facebook - 6,200 + free housing

Salesforce - Varies per year, 34.50/hr for rising junior, housing.

Cisco - 22/hr

Quora and Dropbox are both missing from this list but they both have higher salaries than Palantir, but not by too much.

[1] http://www.glassdoor.com/blog/25-highest-paying-companies-in...


Jane St and a few other finance firms are paying interns ~100k/y annualised. That's the highest I've heard barring grad students with sweetheart deals.

As covi mentioned, Palantir, Quora, Dropbox all pay about roughly the same but are very willing to negotiate and pay more if necessary.


Yes, that figure is about right for the few finance technology films.


Wow... this sounds kind of irrational. I mean, these are close to senior salaries annualized - Sales force is around 70K, while a senior gets about 100K across most of the US.

Are 4 interns really more useful than 3 seniors? Really?


"Get 'em while they're young" is as valid for recruiting as it is brand preferences ;)

Those interns will turn into salaried FTEs whose first three year's annual compensation – amortised signing bonus, stock grants, and performance bonus included – will be ~150k. Compared to new graduate FTEs, interns are positively cheap!

The ~6.5k, housing inclusive, perks out the wazoo also all come from highly profitable, competitive companies falling over each other to recruit from a highly constrained pool. There are only so many Stanford, MIT, and CMU graduates a year, and an even smaller number of hackathon winners, open source contributors, inveterate interns, etc. For many, this is the last time they'll ever openly be on the job market.


Salaries in SF/NYC are much higher than elsewhere, which is where most of those salaries are from. 100k is typical for a dev with 0-3 years of experience in those areas.

You're paying for more than the intern's time - you also get first crack at hiring them full time (with a 3 month interview to decide who you want). In the current job market, that's worth quite a bit.


I'd say Quora and Dropbox can pay much higher, from my personal experience.

Also, there are other places in the industry that pay even higher. But I'd include those with Quora and Dropbox as Tier 1.

In short, Fog Creek is at most Tier 2, along with Google / Facebook, etc.


How's the cost of living in new york? I'm an intern in michigan and I'm getting way less than 6k a month but I definitely feel spoiled.


NYU has a program where college students doing internships in NYC can live in an NYU dorm for ~$360/week.

I didn't find the groceries/food to be all that expensive.


(Manhattan prices) A good studio apartment will be $2000-2500 a month. A one bedroom would be $3000+.


Manhattan prices may $2k -$3k +, but you can get a reasonable apartment and commute for $1300 or less depending how far you want to commute daily


Wow, yea now I see why they get payed so much. A solid 2 bedroom around me is like 500-800.


Please do note that Fog Creek provides an apartment to interns for exactly that reason. You would not being paying New York rent as a student.


How much are you making if you don't mind me asking? I just accepted an internship in STL and curious where the compensation is around there.


You're correct. While not common, top interns at Amazon A9 can pull ~$35k for the summer.


Are you including the housing stipend in that math? That seems awfully high. I'm @ amazon, getting 6700 / mo, plus 2.5k / mo housing stipend and suddenly feel insecure :-p.




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