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There are many wonderful characters that don't have their own individual keys on your keyboard. Heck, there are a lot of characters that require at least one meta key to be pressed in combination with another key, and single quote marks are accessible in exactly that way on my keyboard too (Mac, YMMV).

And, yes, autocorrect can be a PITA, especially when it's not actually getting things correct, but that's a different, albeit related, issue. We should really refer to quote marks, or apostrophe (which are often rendered as curly, and are the characters that autocorrect switches to), and the prime symbol (which is the unadulterated character that you get with the non-meta-pressed key on your keyboard), rather than using the term 'smart quotes'.



Not to detract from the substance of your post, but the unshifted keyboard key pretty much universally generates an ASCII apostrophe (U+0027, '), not a prime (U+2032, ′, as used for feet and minutes, and while I'm babbling, the addition of a second prime for seconds is not a coincidence).

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ASCII 1967, in conjunction with its European counterpart ECMA-6, permitted the visual appearance of some characters, including the apostrophe, to be modified so that they could be used as accents when overstruck¹:

  ' " , ^ ` ~
  ˊ ¨ ¸ ˆ ˋ ˉ (using the modern Unicode spacing modifiers)
Later versions of ECMA-6 suggested that the accent interpretation be used only when the character was actually overstruck:

  In the 7-bit character set, some printing symbol may be
  designed to permit their use for the composition of ac-
  cented letters when necessary for general interchange of
  information. A sequence of three characters, comprising
  a letter, BACKSPACE and one of these symbols, is needed
  for this composition; the symbol is then regarded as a dia-
  critical sign. It should be noted that these symbols take
  on their diacritical significance only when they precede or
  follow the character BACKSPACE; for example, the symbol
  corresponding to the code combination 2/7 normally has the
  significance of APOSTROPHE, but becomes the diacritical
  sign ACUTE ACCENT when preceded or followed by the character
  BACKSPACE.²
Although this was fine for the printing teletypes in use when ASCII was first designed, early video terminals were too dumb to handle overstrikes, so it never caught on.

¹Revised American Standard Code for Information Interchange, from http://www.wps.com/J/codes/Revised-ASCII/index.html

²ECMA-6: 7-Bit coded Character Set, 4th Edition, August 1973, from http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST...

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Please don't abuse tildes in this way; use the proper Unicode wavy-line character: ⌇


But your wavy line has the wrong orientation...

  2307 ⌇ WAVY LINE http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2300.pdf
What you most likely intended to present as an alternative is the...

  301C 〜 WAVE DASH http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U3000.pdf
unicode smiley ➩ ☺


OK, looks like I need to go back to school for a bit before attempting to comment on this again! Thanks for the history lesson.




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