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> Or you know, we could vote those people out of office. We keep bashing those clueless politicians but we did put them here in the first place. We don't even have the excuse of dictatorship.

Yeah, but do you really think Labour would be any better? Both parties seem so scared of the Mail and the Telegraph that they'll do anything to look tough on crime. Thinking about it, is this the inevitable result of an aging population?



The problem with the UK is that it now has 3 major conservative parties.

But aren't there smaller parties you can vote for? And if there aren't any, surely you can start a new party? Find enough people who agree with you.


The US would barely call any of our conservative parties right wing, so it's a matter of perspective on this stuff.


Well, I'm not in the US. I'm Dutch, and from my perspective, you've got 3 conservative parties. Blair killed what used to be Labour.


How sad that we've reached a stage in Britain where one can talk about "both parties", and not be misrepresenting the situation.


I'm not from the UK, I was talking in general. It's terrible that we come to consider the government the enemy when we're the one who are supposed to put them here.




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