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> That's good. You're sensing that something is wrong.

Please stop coercing him using appeals to emotion and false authority. It's paternalistic and condescending.



>> Please stop coercing him using appeals to emotion and false authority. It's paternalistic and condescending.

Tell me, do you think that when say, 330 million people are systematically punished for attempting to keep their property, something just might, in fact, be wrong?

What about 7 billion people?


Still with the emotional arguments. Which part of "don't force me" was unclear?


Still with the mental gymnastics. Which part of "taxation is extortion" was not clear?


The part where you have to do semantic contortions in order to make it a true statement. If anyone's guilty of butchering everyday language in order to make an obscure academic edge case, it's your redefinition of extortion to include taxation. Common sense does not make people think "extortion" when they hear "taxation".


>> The part where you have to do semantic contortions in order to make it a true statement. If anyone's guilty of butchering everyday language in order to make an obscure academic edge case, it's your redefinition of extortion to include taxation

Actually, the definition of "extortion" is not controversial, and needs no twisting to fit taxation: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/extort

to wrest or wring (money, information, etc.) from a person by violence, intimidation, or abuse of authority; obtain by force, torture, threat, or the like.

When a mafia threatens people with violence to make them pay "protection money", it's clearly extortion and clearly immoral.. but when governments threaten people with violence to make them pay taxes, that's.. perfectly fine?

>> Common sense does not make people think "extortion" when they hear "taxation".

Actually, it's brainwashing that prevents people from connecting these dots.

Wake up.


> Actually, it's brainwashing that forces people into making up connections between these dots.

> Wake up.




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