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> Ideally, it would be cost neutral or a net win to transition off of the quagmire of various welfare systems

Ideals aren't convincing. Numbers are.



I completely agree. There are two aspects here; what do we want out of a society and what we can do with the resources we have (the numbers). We're clearly moving towards the resources, which is why I hedged so much on the topic of cost (and put it last instead of first). I'm just interested in moving the conversation in that direction. I like the idea, but I'm not entirely sold on it--it would be /very/ disruptive.




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