Ask HN: I'm visiting SF to see the startup scene before moving. Advice?

[awdraper]

Myself and a friend are both experienced developers and are looking to move to SF with the ultimate goal of founding a startup. We both live in Phoenix, AZ so we're taking a weekend trip to feel out the startup scene, meet with other founders, and get general advice about making the move and getting started. What advice do you have for 2 would-be founders to optimize their visit to SF? Secondly, if you are open to meet please email [at] seancoleman [dot] net

[pc86]

Why aren't you building a product first? SF isn't magic.

[awdraper → pc86]

We are currently building a product. We hope to meet with as many people as we can on this trip, not to pitch our idea, but to learn about what advantages/disadvantages there are to moving to SF to found/grow a company. We are also contemplating working at another startup in SF as a first step.