That total assumption of unrivalled superiority is reflected in your comments
There is no phone that has as much popular attention as the iPhone. Not the Palm Pre or the Blackberry Storm or Google's Android, and those are the closest competitors at the moment. That's not just because Apple has a good publicity machine. It's because they're the company that changed the game with their phone, and no company has yet to come out from under their shadow.
Certain designers have tried to catch up to Apple for a decade, now.
If you would like, I can spend a few hours fully documenting just what makes OS X better than Windows from a designer's perspective. I rather hoped that the arguments of operating system were at least settled from a viewpoint of designer quality. If you want to argue about Apple's being a closed and expensive system, go ahead, and there are good points to be made there, but if you have an aesthetics-focused bone in your body don't attempt to argue with just how superb OS X is until there's a decent competitor.
To me this represents smugness.
Apple designs systems that get out of your way, and that make tasks beautiful. The two other companies being mentioned on this thread are Microsoft and Google. Neither one has that same set of policies. Google is focused on "optimization," which is kind of a bullshit term when you take it as far as their company takes it. Microsoft... I don't know what Microsoft's design philosophy is, but it's a bad one. It baffles me every time they reveal a new system. Apple, meanwhile, has somehow managed to keep their minimalist aesthetic central for a decade now. That represents such a long length of time that I'm convinced Apple actually means to be minimalist and elegant, and that none of their designs are flukes. (Even their mediocre designs, such as Safari 4, have a few brilliant ideas apiece - in Safari 4, it's the grayed-out menu that shows which of your tabs are onscreen and not.) So my comment was saying this: Apple is not perfect, and right now they have parts of their company that to an outsider seem completely batshit insane, but those are isolated parts; the company as a whole is still healthier than any other tech company out there.
But of course you aren't just an unsophisticated Apple fanboy.
If anyone is being ass it is you.
Here's why I'm calling you an ass. It's not that you disagree with me, or that you dislike Apple. It's that in the middle of presenting your argument you feel the need to insert snide comments referring to me as an Apple fanboy.
So from your original comment:
Wow you iPhone guys sure are sensitive.
They may want to ask themselves 'just what has happened to my critical faculties with regards to the iphone'.
If I responded to you calling you a crude unsophisticate because you don't appreciate Apple's philosophy, then I'd be an ass as well. As it is, I think that Apple's products are the best in the market, and certainly the most critically popular. But when I make that argument, it's made without insulting people that don't use Apple products. You chose to take potshots at me while making your specious arguments, which you still have spent no time backing up, and so you're an asshole. But I won't kid myself into thinking you didn't know that. So this discussion is over.
> You chose to take potshots at me while making your specious arguments, which you still have spent no time backing up, and so you're an asshole. But I won't kid myself into thinking you didn't know that. So his discussion is over.
LOL. It's a little sad that this discussion has degenerated to this 'youtubesque' level. I don't totally blame you - it takes two to tango. I'll reserve the option to reply to your more serious points when I'm sober.
There is no phone that has as much popular attention as the iPhone. Not the Palm Pre or the Blackberry Storm or Google's Android, and those are the closest competitors at the moment. That's not just because Apple has a good publicity machine. It's because they're the company that changed the game with their phone, and no company has yet to come out from under their shadow.
Certain designers have tried to catch up to Apple for a decade, now.
If you would like, I can spend a few hours fully documenting just what makes OS X better than Windows from a designer's perspective. I rather hoped that the arguments of operating system were at least settled from a viewpoint of designer quality. If you want to argue about Apple's being a closed and expensive system, go ahead, and there are good points to be made there, but if you have an aesthetics-focused bone in your body don't attempt to argue with just how superb OS X is until there's a decent competitor.
To me this represents smugness.
Apple designs systems that get out of your way, and that make tasks beautiful. The two other companies being mentioned on this thread are Microsoft and Google. Neither one has that same set of policies. Google is focused on "optimization," which is kind of a bullshit term when you take it as far as their company takes it. Microsoft... I don't know what Microsoft's design philosophy is, but it's a bad one. It baffles me every time they reveal a new system. Apple, meanwhile, has somehow managed to keep their minimalist aesthetic central for a decade now. That represents such a long length of time that I'm convinced Apple actually means to be minimalist and elegant, and that none of their designs are flukes. (Even their mediocre designs, such as Safari 4, have a few brilliant ideas apiece - in Safari 4, it's the grayed-out menu that shows which of your tabs are onscreen and not.) So my comment was saying this: Apple is not perfect, and right now they have parts of their company that to an outsider seem completely batshit insane, but those are isolated parts; the company as a whole is still healthier than any other tech company out there.
But of course you aren't just an unsophisticated Apple fanboy.
If anyone is being ass it is you.
Here's why I'm calling you an ass. It's not that you disagree with me, or that you dislike Apple. It's that in the middle of presenting your argument you feel the need to insert snide comments referring to me as an Apple fanboy.
So from your original comment:
Wow you iPhone guys sure are sensitive.
They may want to ask themselves 'just what has happened to my critical faculties with regards to the iphone'.
If I responded to you calling you a crude unsophisticate because you don't appreciate Apple's philosophy, then I'd be an ass as well. As it is, I think that Apple's products are the best in the market, and certainly the most critically popular. But when I make that argument, it's made without insulting people that don't use Apple products. You chose to take potshots at me while making your specious arguments, which you still have spent no time backing up, and so you're an asshole. But I won't kid myself into thinking you didn't know that. So this discussion is over.