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Switzerland: Say no to a surveillance state (buepf.ch)
137 points by kimlelly on July 8, 2013 | hide | past | favorite | 15 comments


Well, today I learned that a google search for 'BUPF' is not equivalent to 'BÜPF'

(for your convenience: https://www.google.com/search?q=B%C3%9CPF&oq=B%C3%9CPF&aqs=c...)

According to this article: http://netzpolitik.gruene.ch/nach-den-usa-nun-die-schweiz-gr...

The law in question has been updated to retain data for 12 months instead of 6 and authorizes the government to install Trojan type programs. Does anyone have more info on the Trojan type programs proposed?


Well, you could try to search for BUEPF instead.

In German when you cannot write the umlaut, an e gets added to the letter that should have the umlaut.


You might want to see the discussions in the following thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6007255

To avoid redundancy.


It took me a while to notice the Chrome bar that said this was translated from German. Wow, I wouldn't have thought so otherwise, it's impeccable.

When's the deadline for this?


It's a pity that foreigners who live for a long time in Switzerland cannot be part of this...


If you live in Switzerland legally, you are allowed to sign the petition.


really? this is great! thanks for the info. Do you have any link by hand which defines these rules? (i.e. what kind of permit do I have to have, does it differ from canton to canton? ...)


No links to hand I'm afraid, but I'm pretty sure that it's anything more permanent than a tourist visa. Don't think it varies by canton. I'll try and remember to dig about/ask my wife (sorry, just about to go to work..)


Yes, you CAN ALL be part of this!

The world's HN readers are now the LOBBYISTS of this petition! Yes, just like the corporate lobbyists in Washington - probably even more powerful considering our numbers.

All you have to do is LOBBY the sh*t out of your colleagues in Switzerland. Everybody knows somebody in Switzerland. If the whole world lobbies the people in Switzerland, that petition will reach Mach10, like yesterday.

EDIT: Why should you participate? You get to store your data in a western country that will continue to defend privacy and democracy.


If you have any family, friends, business colleagues in Switzerland, please forward this information / petition!

EDIT: This is NOT like a whitehouse.gov petition! This one has a very real effect, so DO IT!

EDIT 2: If anybody is on Slashdot or Reddit: please post about it there as well. Let's show them what the network effect is!


To clarify for people in other countries. When a petition gets 100,000 swiss signers than the governement must respond with a suggestion. The petition and suggestion then go to referendum. The decision of the people is final and government must implement the decision as long as it doesn't impeach some basic rules.


I still don't see a post on Slashdot and/or Reddit!

If you do, please post a the link here. If you don't, please post if you have an account there. Democracy says hi and thanks!


und jetzt hier: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1hw3n1/stop_the_su...

(Excuse the assumption you speak german! ;) )


Great, thanks!

Everybody, vote that Reddit post up!





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