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Pine Gap (wikipedia.org)
77 points by ra on June 15, 2013 | hide | past | favorite | 8 comments

Steve Blank, who writes a start up blog that used to get posted on HN a lot wrote a post a while back talking about how he used to work there. http://steveblank.com/2009/04/13/story-behind-%E2%80%9Cthe-s...

Wow, that's a great read. I've read that post before but had no idea it was about Pine Gap. Thanks for posting.

the CAAT appeal was stunning. Alhough admitting that Pine Gap was used to target strikes on Iraq, defence insisited that it is not a war base - which made the facility ineligible for the protections from judicial scrutiny afforded under "special undertakings". Rather than admit that a foreign war base operates from the heart of our country, and unwilling (unable!) to answer the defendants' full range of examination, the prior conviction was nullified and the christians against all terrorism walked free.

but now the usa is opening more bases around the country, including marines in Darwin and US warships off WA.

Yeah all this takes on a whole new context in the light of PRISM.

I think it was Cory Doctorow who said, "Snowdon took the theory out of conspiracy theory".

I haven't seen much from CD on PRISM: got any links?

Pine Gap gets name checked in Rap News 15 - Big Brother is WWWatching You: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o66FUc61MvU

Sugar Grove [1] as well as Yakima [2] have been completely closed. From what I hear Menwith Hill and Misawa have been de-staffed and repurposed. I suspect Pine Gap is still maintained for short term operational projects, but the ECHELON SIGINT program has been effectively shut down. (Rightfully so as its purpose was Satellite intercepts, which have largely given way to fiber optic routes)

1. http://cryptome.org/dodi/2013/opnav-5400-2215.pdf 2. http://cryptome.org/dodi/2013/opnav-5400-2211.pdf

Interesting. I remember once upon a time the Australian govt wanted to shut it down (under Whitlam). But it still goes strong, probably the reason why the ANZUS agreement exists.

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