On: A Primer on IPv4, IPv6 and Transition

[Tmmrn]

> We are hopelessly addicted to using a network protocol that has now run out of addresses.

We... "We"...

Let's see what the situation with germany's Telekom is like:

2010: http://heise.de/-1102458 - At the end of 2011 all DSL connections will be switched to ipv4/ipv6 dual stack

Mid 2012: http://heise.de/-1605061 - At the end of 2012 they will provide ipv4/ipv6 dual stack

End of 2012: http://heise.de/-1763557 - Only customers with VOIP or ISDN are getting ipv6.

It's not "me" who loves it, it's the ISPs.

[skore → Tmmrn]

> Only customers with VOIP or ISDN are getting ipv6.

I think you got that the wrong way around. Old analog and ISDN connections are specifically mentioned to never get v6 (which makes sense, I guess). Only new contracts with a fixed IP will definitely get it.

[Tmmrn → skore]

Oh right, I read that wrong.

But... Why does it make sense?

[sliverstorm → Tmmrn]

IPv4 works just fine, the problem is growing it. If you already have service, you've already got an address. No problems.

Alternatively, ISDN/dialup gateways just don't support IPv6 because they were all designed in 1995.

[lucb1e → sliverstorm]

> IPv4 works just fine

Here you are supporting the network problem. If no ISPs support IPv6, it makes no sense for websites to support it. If no websites support it, it makes no sense for ISPs to support it.

You're right that everyone with an address needs no new address to be globally reachable, but in order to actually fix the issue we need everyone to switch. The protocol versions just don't inter-operate.

[icebraining → Tmmrn]

Yeah, here we had an "IPv6 Task Force" in 2004, showing how ready the Portuguese ISPs were. The site hasn't been updated since, and my ISP tells me there's no planned schedule for introducing it:|

[walshemj → Tmmrn]

I think in Germany the Subs get what "Deutsche Bundespest" decides was is good for them