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Thank God. While I'm honestly not concerned about the man's well-being - that 8-year-old boy should be alive in his place - I am very curious as to why they did this.



They come from a very Islamic country and it's been said that they'd recently started wearing traditional Muslim clothing--a switch from the european clothing they'd been wearing for most of their lives. It's easy for kids to become obsessed with a cause... even if it's a terrible one. Basically, all signs point to this being just another religious extremist attack.


It appears that the elder brother got disillusioned/pissed-off (I guess he came here in his late teens, so didn't get the chance to adjust). He got angry. Maybe he felt that he belonged in the Olympic team and didn't make it. Whatever. But this provided the kindling; and some religious nut turned this anger into a weapon.

The younger brother was just too much under the influence of the elder, it appears from what I've read. Maybe he looked up to him, and just followed him blindly. Who knows.

As long as we keep figuring out ways to hate each other, we'll keep figuring out ways to kill each other.


The big question is to what degree it was organized, or whether the older brother's social problems (inability to connect etc.) so alienated him that he just seized on the most empowering role model he could think of, an Islamic rebel. Chechnya is a country that has been ruled pretty poorly by Russia at it's not so long ago that Chechen Muslims were seen as heroic freedom fighters in the west.

In short, it's unclear whether they were actually involved with any organized jihad groups or just developed a personal obsession with the ideas and copied the methods.


At the time they came to the US, they were tiny little boys. They are from the US, we just don't want to own them.


The older brother was 15 or 16 when he immigrated to the US. That's not exactly a tiny little boy.


Speculation is that they are/were radical jihadists based on their background and recent changes in their behavior.


Agreed. A trial is the best possible outcome to this bad situation. Boston & surrounding PDs did a good job.


I wonder how they'll find a jury that doesn't already think he's guilty.


Sometimes they hold a trial outside the area where the crime occurred for that very reason. Since he'll be facing federal charges I think they have fairly broad latitude on where the trial is held. Doubtless the government will go into court with a mountain of evidence. Considering how easily they were IDed and caught I'm guessing they left a lot of forensic evidence.

Of course, he may decide to confess and plead guilty. There'll be an avalanche of detail either way, books ad nauseam and so on..


Well, look at the currently top comment (http://tf-575.com/images/renders/), they are victims, see... A jury is possible, yes.


What the heck did you link to? :-D (cut-n-paste gone wild!)


This link needs an NSFW tag...


LOL! Sometimes it's wise not to assume we know what's on the clipboard. That link is to a pile of computer-rendered lesbian porn images!


Heh, no idea what it was.

Update: wow. WTF is this? :-)

Thanks for all the upvotes...


Bad link?


Great link!


Naughty link. :P


Hmm, I wonder if the Amish do jury duty...


Generally not.. it is considered against their religious belief to judge others.


Aye. I imagine it would be bad form to deliberately choose Jury members all from one religious group anyway.


I wonder if he'll talk. If he is treated like a normal citizen, he doesn't have to say a single thing to the officers conducting the investigation.


He will not be treated as a normal citizen and will be interviewed by the "high value detainee interrogation group" https://twitter.com/abc/status/325417178927083524

edit: Carmen Ortiz (prosecutor in Aaron Swartz case and now Boston Bombing/Manhunt) confirms use of public safety exemption




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