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Node.js Application Hosting Service running on Digital Ocean (stackful.io)
42 points by 0stanislav on April 12, 2013 | hide | past | favorite | 34 comments



I have some questions and, please, don't get me wrong, I'm not being sarcastic. I am really interested in your services.

I got a cheap server on DO I use to deploy some apps just for testing purpose and, sometimes, I think I waste too many time configuring, breaking stuff and fine-tunning my servers (I do like it but it's not very productive). The languages I play with are Python (Django and Flask), PHP (Symfony2 and Wordpress) and Javascript (Node.js/Express).

My questions are: Why would I choose Stackful.io over Digital Ocean? Will it help me with that?


One of the Stackful.io devs here.

I'm all for server tweaking and I do it all the time, but sometimes it gets boring. I could probably do something better than configure php5-fpm for the thousandth time.

Right now, Stackful.io takes the pain from that when it comes to Node.js development. You just pick a server size and hit a button. 2 minutes later your machine is ready to rock and you can deploy your app with a simple Git push.

We are planning on doing the same for the other major web technologies. We have some pretty good progress with a Python stack and a PHP one is in our queue.


I'm amazed something that works like stackful.io or heroku for your own servers has not been written yet. Like you, many tinkerers have a cheap server to use as a lab. It would be great if one could install on it some piece of software that provided heroku-like zero-friction deploy for new apps. Just do "app create", push a git repo and, bam, the app is deployed, with sensible defaults. The defaults are not supposed to make everyone happy, but, like a default heroku deployment, to allow you to start new apps with zero friction, thus encouraging experimentation and hacking.


You should check out Cloud66.com they are _almost_ there with what you are describing. I'm really hoping to be using them in a month or two.

They'll read in your Github repo and then based on that configure VPS's for you according to your specs (shared db server, standalone, etc.), it's very slick.

Right now, they're lacking in documentation and don't handle some aspects of admin (most notably server security updates) very well.


Not exactly what you're talking about (I think the linked `juju` is probably closer), but I came across Docker[0] recently.

It's more of a framework for managing deployments locally. -- It seems really cool but I haven't had a chance to play with it yet.

[0]: http://docs.docker.io/en/latest/examples/python_web_app/


We're working on it: http://juju.ubuntu.com

Here's a simple example with rails, you can do the same with node or django apps: http://www.jorgecastro.org/2012/11/16/deploying-your-rails-a...


Our Chef-based stack(s) are open source and hosted on github. We are thinking of packaging them in a form that is convenient to run in a local Vagrant box or something of that sort, so that you can easily test your app without wrecking your production environment first.


What about Red Hat's Openshift or VMware's Cloud Foundry?

http://openshift.github.io/

http://cloudfoundry.github.io/


As a Chef user, what are the honest selling points of cuisine vs. something like Chef Solo? I'm definitely up for moving to something that isn't as heavy as Chef but so far nothing has really clicked. Is it just that you preferred python? Looking at the sample code it doesn't seem more compact or sraight forward than the ruby equivalents. The excellent knife cloud bootstrap plugins, good hypervisor metadata coverage and active community makes it hard to say goodbye.

I'm sure you're not looking to go head to head with opscode or plabs, but what's the elevator pitch? I'd really love something that ended up being much more concise for the 90% of the deploys that are dead simple.

(and no, I haven't tried ansible yet)


Regarding cuisine vs. Chef Solo... I think it mostly depends on what your scripts do. In my opinion, Fabric/Cuisine make it absurdly easy to execute commands against a remote server and most of the time that's enough for a decent deployment. Chef's execution API is, to put it mildly, clumsy. I cringe every time I have to type something like:

execute "#{virtualenv_dir}/bin/pip install -r #{requirements_file}" do user deploy_user group deploy_user end

IMO Chef shines when you have to move a lot of config files and generate node- and role-specific configs. I feel it's a lot simpler to just have recipe-specific files and templates packaged with the recipe and move them over with commands like cookbook_file and template.

Right now we are using both the technologies. Our stacks are Chef-based since we want people to be comfortable with reading (and possibly modifying) its code. We also reuse a lot of the Opscode recipes which simply do not exist for Fabric/Cuisine. Fabric and Cuisine have their place when we bootstrap a server and prepare the Chef environment and at several odd places where they keep things running together.


With regards to Digital Ocean. My server there which I installed about a month ago (Amsterdam location), with 2GB of RAM is not responding for several hours now. Including not possible to reboot. Support says they're aware of the issue. But it's been several hours like this now. Never had with with Linode in my 3 years with them. Guess I'll be moving this server back.


Gray - send me an email -> mitch [at] digitalocean

I will take care of it for you.


Digital Ocean have been great so far, support and problem solving experience are amazing. Hopefully your problem will get fixed quickly.


Ah, cool. I'm already using Digital Ocean for hosting the development Linux box that I access from my "Android workstation": http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/working-on-android/

Their service has been working without any hassles until now, and so I wouldn't mind having them as a Heroku alternative for hosting my Node.js apps.


Great post, btw.

Unfortunately, there is a problem with DO Amsterdam location.

"The 512MB and 1GB sizes are currently not available in the Amsterdam region due to RIPE IPv4 restrictions and limited availability of IP space."


This is offering a lot more server for your money than Heroku / Gondor.io / dotcloud.


Looks nice, price seems right. I'll have to try it when I have some free time.


Thank you!

Feedback and feature requests are welcome.


how about custom domain? Where can see/vote feature request publicly?


Feature request / voting is now enabled on our site. All ideas and feedback are more than welcome!


Founder of http://www.nodesocket.com here, best of luck guys. Are you guys in the bay area?


Thank you so much! Good luck with Commando.io!

Our team is located in Europe.


Azure Websites also offer Node.js hosting [1], and they have a free plan for small (development) sites. Paid plans there seem more expensive.

[1] http://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/develop/nodejs/


Unfortunately, the problem with freemium is that at the end paying customers have to sponsor the free accounts.

And in most cases providers do as much as possible to lock you in, so you don't switch to a cheaper option when you reach certain size.

On the other hand, we want customers to know that they can leave us whenever they need to. Your apps are completely portable, so there is no reason not to give it a try.


Is there a free plan ?


You can launch your sever and deploy your app for free. You can keep the server alive later if you need to.

Prices start from $8/mo for 512 ram SSD server.


This is awesome. I love that there is a new one push deploy in town other than Heroku. Will you guys ever support a Rails stack?


Thanks! Yes, we will definitely support Rails soon (several weeks). We are working hard to make all major stacks available.


Interesting how much Python they use. Perhaps they'll add Python hosting as well?


Most of the backend and frontend is written in Python and we are working on a Python stack. Stay tuned!


> PaaS Service


Fixed. Thanks!


Also the only VCPU that is pluralized on your pricing page is the 1 VCPU under the 16gb plan.


Fixed, thanks a bunch!




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