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Peaker 423 days ago | link | parent

I think even today, but especially many years ago, my experiences using Java code both in the form of web applets, and in the form of standalone applications has been far from "Just works".

It is better these days, but even today Java programs tend to have more distribution issues than other languages.

In the olden days, besides the awful Swing GUI that made it immediately recognizable, gray squares and/or stack dumps when trying to execute Java applications or applets were common.



Chris_Newton 423 days ago | link

One of my major ongoing web projects still uses a Java applet, so I’ll be the first to agree with you that it doesn’t always just work. Having said that, if you look at the kind of tools we have for packaging and distribution in say Python or JavaScript, it’s clear that even popular languages today can still have a very long way to go in this respect.

I would love to have a mainstream development stack with the kind of programming tools and expressive power that plenty of modern languages and libraries now offer, but which ultimately produced compiled and statically linked executables the old-fashioned way at least by default, without necessarily relying on package managers or heavyweight virtual machines or run-time linking or writing code just to describe how to install my code. Unfortunately, I doubt that such a language/tool chain exists today, though I’m optimistic that sooner or later someone’s promising niche language will break through.

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