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> And no, this isn't evidence that we are heading for a Gestapo society. No. The Gestapo was highly organized, disciplined, and effective. Homeland Security, by contrast, is a bunch of minimum-wage flunkies, unable to get a job anywhere else because of malfeasance, complete lack of job skills, illiteracy, or a combination of these, which fails to accomplish anything of note whatsoever.

What about the NSA/CIA who have managed to wholesale wiretap everyone domestically without hesitation or meaningful resistance?

You're full of shit when you suggest that the problem is with a single, disorganized agency.



I did not intend to suggest that other parts of the defense apparatus might not also be doing bad things; I was talking only about this particular incident.

I do, however, think that if we just stripped away all of the parts of DHS that were a reaction to 9/11, that would solve at least some of our problems.




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