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well you have to look at the wider picture Germany is rare (almost unique) in that engineers are looked up to as the equivelent or a doctor and lawyer.

And how many senior engineers at Audi and BMW and Mercedes started as apprentices.

In the English speaking word this is not the case we are look upon as greasy almost sub human.

for example the wife of the no2 at bt labs you know the place where the first computer was designed and built when she said that he husband was an engineer she was asked patronizingly "oh thats nice dear what sort of cars does he work on"




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