On: Sophie In North Korea

[raverbashing]

"The nations that at any point had slavery, were capitalist"

You're wrong. And missing about 5 thousand years of history.

"abject poverty, only exists because abject wealth exists"

Yes, that's why the "leaders" of North Korea are abjectly wealthy. Like the leaders of Romania, for example.

[obstacle1 → raverbashing]

>You're wrong

Well, they certainly weren't communist, in any case. By definition slavery cannot exist in an actual communist society, since such societies are completely classless and the only form of ownership is common.

[Volpe → raverbashing]

I agree I'm wrong in the context of history of the civilisation, but correct in terms of "the history of communism, and capitalism".

If you want to include feudalism in there I'm happy to have the discussion on what feudalism is closer to: Communism or Capitalism.