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You're right. Let's ban cars. Though that's a bit too extreme, let's only ban assault vehicles. You know, those black SUV's that look a little too much like military vehicles. That is a good solution to the number of people killed by drunk drivers.


As an Australian, I thought I should point out that despite the Straw Man argument above, this is actually what happened in our country.

Our death rate due to firearms has reduced by half since our automatic/semi automatic buyback program initiated in 1996 and yet, the number of guns sold last year was the same[1] as pre-1996 levels.

[1] http://www.theage.com.au/national/australians-restock-the-gu...


This really is about the perfect analogy. Vague statistics refracted through hysteria and political shenanigans ending with unhelpful legislation.


Nah let's remove speed limits and drink all you want when you drive. Because people should have all the freedom they want and people are rational and intelligent. Screw the rights of other people to be able to drive safely.

Heck, why restrict fully automatic M16s and bazookas - why dare impose limits at all. People are rational and intelligent their freedom should not stop where others begin. In fact you should be able to drunk drive and carry around your loaded M16 out the window down the highway.

We should be like the middle east with people firing fully automatics in the air anytime they want and gangs roaming around in pickups fully armed.

The gun bans they are trying now are the only place they can start. Because anything more sane would insanely be ignored. At least they are trying and it's a start.

Guns are not toys and that's the whole problem, people want to play with them because they think it's a game.


>The gun bans they are trying now are the only place they can start. Because anything more sane would insanely be ignored. At least they are trying and it's a start.

The thing about legislative efforts, is that on an issue where there are parties who want to take certain laws to one extreme or the other (Ex: Banning all guns.) and the sliding scale is freedom vs regulation, there will inevitably always be push from both of the extreme sides. So even if you enact "reasonable" gun laws, there will always be parties trying to push them forwards or backwards. This means that the sensible thing for guns rights organizations to do is turn even a minor gun regulation into a shitstorm so that the opposing forces on the other side have to spend all their energy maintaining reasonable gun laws.

Internet activists may want to take notes.


As long as people enjoy killing animals, guns will never be illegal in this country. There are plenty of lefties in the senate who really enjoy killing animals so guns are always going to be legal.

What they are trying to restrict is the use of guns as toys and I have zero problem with that. I think hunting is ridiculous and horrible in this day and age but I guess that's part of the compromise I have to do. I am not accepting anything further than that though, guns are not toys.


There are environmentally sound reasons to control the population of wild animals. A population boom/bust cycle wreaks havoc on the environment. We've already interfered with nature on this continent to such a degree it cannot self-regulate. I don't enjoy killing animals, but those that I know who hunt are in fact doing us all a public service we would otherwise have to pay the government to do.


> Guns are not toys and that's the whole problem, people want to play with them because they think it's a game.

This doesn't describe any gun owner I've ever met. Like most people who want to ban guns, you're arguing out of complete ignorance.




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