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The police do not have unlimited power to order us around.

Quote from a lawyer in the article:

> Personal delivery devices must yield to other pedestrians and pedalcyclists in a pedestrian area

Sounds like the robot legally had to yield to her. If so, what lawful basis would the officer have had to make the order?

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Just because something must yield to you doesn't mean you have an infinite right to obstruct it.

It's quite possible (and likely!) for you simultaneously to have an obligation to yield and the other party to have an obligation to not block.


I'm reminded of how the head of Oregon's DMV once described the legalities of merging onto the highway. "Yielding is the law, merging is what we do." Technically the merging traffic has to yield to the traffic already on the highway, but this does not mean traffic on the highway can block them. In fact, in Oregon we have a law that would make that likely to count as speed racing, a class A infraction. I.e. something you do not want your insurance company to get wind of.

The article includes "she might spend 10 or 15 minutes blocking it, moving as it does, to delay it on its journey".

That sounds like the robot tried to yield and she purposefully moved to counter that.

That would likely support a charge for obstructing traffic or disorderly conduct or something similar.


A robot on a sidewalk is not traffic.

If the robot wants to be traffic, great! Go into the street with the other commercial delivery vehicles.


Just to be clear, would you consider it an optimal and acceptable thing where people can arbitrarily obstruct another person’s robot on the sidewalk whenever they want for as long as they want for whatever reason they want?

Yes. Robots are not people.

A robot may not be a person but it is a person's property.

It doesn't seem right to interfere with the reasonable use of someone else's property.


I realize it’s just nitpicking but: that robot it’s a corporation’s property, not a person’s.



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