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> I don't believe this. Please read this blog post: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/introducing-google-pr....

Do you see "facebook" anywhere here? Find in page for it? Do you see any facebook features specifically called out? Just checking. I see a series of basic social features and big sections for G+'s callout features; most notably Hangouts.

> I'm sorry, but this is basically Facebook circa 2011 with improvements. I don't see a single mention of other google services.

This is an interpretation. Your interpretation. I do not mean to be cold, but it seems like a terribly shallow and ill considered interpretation of the situation.

In actuality Google Plus has often been described as a social integration of diverse Google services including Youtube, Profiles, a much more sophisticated realtime video conferencing tool called Hangouts, heavy search integration, and search signal generation. Subsequently it has become the re-definition of "Google Profile" and is basically how Google thinks about user identity, with all major services slowly coming into line with G+.

You can say, "I think that's just Facebook", but that's just you. If Google hasn't said that, you cannot claim they or anyone else is "moving the goalposts." Think whatever you like about G+, what I'm objecting to is your imprecise co-opting of precise terminology for logical fallacies to make a muddy argument about your feelings for this article.



>Do you see "facebook" anywhere here? Find in page for it? Do you see any facebook features specifically called out? Just checking. I see a series of basic social features and big sections for G+'s callout features; most notably Hangouts.

Well that's hideously ingenuous. Literally stating "like Facebook but from Google" is the sort of shit they shoot you for in ad-copy 101.


I just don't see Google making any actual direct play against Facebook.

P.S., I think you meant the opposite of what you said.


quite possibly. I don't actually know the definition of ingenuous, it felt right but a I may be confusing it for a near-homophone.


"Disingenuous."

And to your point, Google isn't making a facebook play but that is the only metric lots of people are willing to judge them by. I am just trying to drill home the point that it is the poster's interpretation and not Google's stated goal to have a use pattern like Facebook. Google doesn't need that.

Which, to some extent, is fine. I agree with the thesis fo the article that G+ is doing well. And for now, it's one of the best places for hackers to go and socialize off of news sites. It's slowly becoming more tedious as the hapless and advertisers start to realize how valuable it actually is.




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