On: Kimi K3.1 Pro and K3.1 Pro Highspeed

[minimaxir]

This is a price drop from Kimi K3 ($3/$15/$0.30) despite being a slightly larger model (3T vs. 2.8T params).

I'm glad I waited a day to post my analysis of LLM price cuts because it needs...an addition.

[Philpax → minimaxir]

Are we sure this is a new pretrain and not them rounding up 2.8T?

[vikramkr → Philpax]

Literally from the linked announcement:

> Kimi K3.1 Pro is a post-trained version of Kimi K3, with substantially larger post-training compute

[minimaxir → Philpax]

The Kimi K3 announcement (https://www.kimi.ai/blog/kimi-k3) used 2.8T and it would be weird to round that up for this announcement.

[Philpax → minimaxir]

Looks like this post's using "3T-class", which I think I've seen them use before.

[rfoo → Philpax]

it's almost certainly rounding up 2.8T

[tonyhart7 → minimaxir]

lol, price mtok mean nothing if they substantially generate more reasoning token that would just add more cost to the task

[minimaxir → tonyhart7]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50213386