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Cleveland has had two sets of power lines for a long time (despite FirstEnergy’s many attempts to shut down Cleveland Public Power). It’s not necessarily a natural monopoly.

Instead it one where incumbents try very hard to convince everyone it must be a monopoly.



> It’s not necessarily a natural monopoly.

Having a private market does not make something not a natural monopoly. Healthcare, education, land, and energy are famously cases where market forces do not find a lowest possible price floor.

the main things that cause a natural monopoly are things like high initial cost, a lower cost per unit created and the most important one a sub-additive cost function.

If you have a single healthcare provider for example and 2 hospitals, you can have 1 IT team to handle both medical records, that is one engineering team, 1 database, 1 security team and then you have the costs that cannot be saved such as doctors nurses and staff in each hospital.

Meanwhile if you have 2 healthcare providers you need 2 engineering teams, 2 dbs, and 2 cyber teams while the cost of doctors, nurses and staff remains untouched.

That added cost makes the "competition" subadditive. You lose more than you gain by having multiple players in the market. Which is why American's spend more in healthcare than single payer systems like the ones in Europe. Just plain old boring math. And its not even a new concept. Adam Smith calls landlords "leeches" in his works


Having lived through many corporate mergers, two small IT teams are often far more efficient than 1 big one.

Sadly its 2 large ones. Cybersecurity, HIPAA, medical records all requiere pretty substancial certification that you aint going to pass with 2 it guys who sometimes tell nurses to update their laptops.

The IT teams are just very obvious redundancies in a site like HN, but the major costs come from things like bulk medicine buys. Having a single team, and a larger order means you get cheaper prices compared to every hospital negociating their own prices against Pharma companies. Its why single providers in europe get better prices than american companies in basically every single medicine category.

But you can keep going and find tons of recurring, avoidable costs that simply are non additive with competition in natural monopolies. And not only is the math easy to follow, but the empirical experiments of privatising those natural monopolies always fails meanwhile the public ownership almost always works


I don't think 1 vs 2 players is meaningful enough difference to make that an actual competitive market.




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