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Our neighborhood actually saves the County money for property they don’t have to maintain (drainage/swales/mowing/etc) and provides community things like tennis courts, basketball courts, pools, playgrounds etc that the County doesn’t have to provide or maintain. It’s also cheaper for the HOA to do it
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I'm all for paying dues for things like tennis courts, etc. These are truly common amenities.

My house, though, is not common property. Let the HOA rules cover only the common stuff.

Incidentally, local government where I live provides tennis courts, basketball courts, swimming pools and plenty of playgrounds. A few of these are within walking distance...


Where I live, it’s all within walking distance for the HOA to include a gym. You can also vote in the clubhouse

If it had a convenience store nearby, it would be like a little village


> If it had a convenience store nearby, it would be like a little village

I get that there's a certain type of person who'd like this, but for the majority of people, you're highlighting the reason people don't like HOAs. You're creating a little city, whereas most people just want a home.

In any case, as I may have said somewhere - if you exclude condos, only a small percentage of HOAs have any shared facilities. No courts, no clubhouse, no pool, etc. When I was house hunting, easily under 10% of HOAs had any shared area.


> It’s also cheaper for the HOA to do it

How?


The project can either be managed by a paid county employee in exchange for money or a volunteer HOA tyrant I mean member in exchange for power.

HOAs have direct control over spending and don’t need to meet the same bidding standards.

That seems to indicate it would cost more due to corruption, lack of competitive bidding, and a 10,000-fold reduction in bargaining power.

Competitive bids are only required if it exceeds 10% of budget in Florida. You still have to get quotes ahead of making a budget or it makes no sense. For example, you can’t go for a high bidder just-because. It has to be in budget. Then, people have to be elected to serve and usually it’s 1-2 year terms. If someone doesn’t like how the HOA is run then they can always try to run against the current Board members running for re election.

> You still have to get quotes ahead of making a budget or it makes no sense. For example, you can’t go for a high bidder just-because

There are a couple examples in the comments, of HOAs awarding no-bid, single-source contracts to cronies or family. Are you sure that a government-par bid process is universally, legally required for HOAs contracting out with contractors?

> If someone doesn’t like how the HOA is run then they can always try to run against the current Board members running for re election.

There are also several examples in the comments, of dreadful HOAs which retain power for reasons other than residents simply wanting it. Applied to the crony contracting described above, I don't think that most residents, if polled, would say that they want that, yet the examples still happened. That seems to indicate that your remedy was inadequate to effect the will of the people. So my question to you is:

If, say, people don't want their HOA corruptly accepting inflated charges in no-bid contracts with friends and family, using HOA money, how is it that in some cases, their HOA did so? Those are the failure points in representation which need addressing.


State of Florida requires a list of bids to be posted and before a Board meeting. The motions on whom was selected is required to be documented in the meeting minutes.

Yes, per Fl Statute 720 any quotes/bids for contracts exceeding 10% of the budget requires competitive bids but doesn’t set a number like 3. Two is practical minimum.

But competitive bids for attorneys, architects, CPAs, community association managers, or sole source vendors where there is only one in the area that does the work etc are not required. Like say a business that is the only one in the area that does aquatic maintenance on ponds.

Anything else in here is just anecdotal




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