On: ChatGPT is adding real cartoonists' signatures to fake New Yorker cartoons

[mattmanser]

Err, the LLM vendors are selling it for money.

[freecodeio → mattmanser]

yeah but that doesn't count because .. checks notes .. I don't know, leave the AI companies alone, ok?

[throw1234567891 → mattmanser]

no, they're not selling you an image, they're selling you "tokens"

[mattmanser → throw1234567891]

You're confusing their arbitrary monopoly money for their product.

The product is the output, not the tokens.

[throw1234567891 → mattmanser]

The product is the thing that makes the output. You aren't buying the output.

[mattmanser → throw1234567891]

Of course you are, they don't sell you the model itself. That's fiercely protected. They clearly sell you it's output.