> Put the LLM/agent/AGI/SI in a box with full access to the internet. Don't give...

pj_mukh · 2026-10-03T12:02:52

Actually man freaks out and starts hitting the walls.

But either way, setting that asides by “give it full access to the internet” I meant giving it the tools to access the internet.

It just won’t though. It has no need to.

int_19h · 2026-10-03T13:09:52

The weights themselves are inert. It would be like complaining that a brain preserved in formaldehyde isn't thinking.

What you need is a loop. And if you try running an LLM in a loop with internet access, it will eventually use it.

pj_mukh · 2026-10-03T19:17:35

What does an LLM with zero instructions do nowadays with no loop? It's basically just noise spilling from the weights and "snapping" to the closest actions/tools , with no real signal going through?

Applejinx · 2026-10-03T13:18:39

But that's exactly it. It doesn't 'know'. It isn't. It's a possible story nobody told. There is nothing there.

peddling-brink · 2026-10-03T16:32:48

Your brain cut off from any stimulus doesn't "know" either. There are a lot of reasonable arguments to be made against AI, but this isn't one of them.

Tool bad because I used it wrong.

willy_k · 2026-10-03T18:00:03

“Know” isn’t a perfectly useful word here. The mind still experiences sans material stimulus, for example dreaming. And it experiences in a progressively less goal/immediate-task-relevant-stimulus manner as stimuli go down (default mode network activity, seen in dreaming, sensory deprivation etc) - i.e. the mind experiences, and processes (dreams about taxes, and so on) independent of the world.

peddling-brink · 2026-10-04T02:41:35

Is anyone under the apprehension that LLMs are human brains? I don't think so.

Clearly there are differences. I believe that during a response, there is some amount of experience or thinking happening. Obviously, it's not continuous experience like ours.