On: Gemini 4 Argon

[iamronaldo]

Argon will launch at an introductory price of $2 per million input tokens and $10 per million output tokens, with cached input tokens priced at 95% off input token price. Wow

[denysvitali → iamronaldo]

> After the introductory period expires, the price of $4 per 1M input tokens and $20 per 1M output tokens will apply.

[kingstnap → denysvitali]

I have my doubts about them following through with this increase. I mean how many times has an increase on the same model happened.

There was Deepseek v4, which then later Deepseek v4.1 came out and it went back down again.

[jofzar → kingstnap]

They will follow through with it, it's because they want to get the money of the people who embedded it into their system and lazy to change it.

[onlyrealcuzzo → kingstnap]

It's an accounting trick.

They get to claim that as revenue, and then the discount as an expense.

This is how you grow your top line

[LucasBrandt → iamronaldo]

5x cheaper than Astra for input and output, 10x cheaper for cached input.

[ehsankia → LucasBrandt]

It's exact same price as Sol 6.1 announced yesterday.

[h14h → LucasBrandt]

watch it somehow use 20x more tokens tho

[tonyhart7 → h14h]

Google model really like reasoning a lot

[3371 → tonyhart7]

More importantly, they can stuck at reasoning loop!

[onlyrealcuzzo → iamronaldo]

That's before they integrate a Jev solution, which should lower agentic workflow costs by ~40% and increase speeds by ~40%, while also increasing quality.

Everyone will be adding this soon, though I won't be surprised if Google is one of the first - and I'll be shocked if we have to wait more than a month and a half.

[asdfman123 → onlyrealcuzzo]

Jev can fix it