>Peak extinctionist talk is to pretend we can go see what's beyond the mountains, especially without solving all our cave problems first, as we can only ever launch such a lofty expedition from the cave.
>Also, going past the mountains is a pipe dream for people that know more about children's tales than _actually_ going from the cave to the nearby shore.
Also, Mars is a pipe dream of people who know more about Star Trek than space exploration.