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> Has an AI agent ever woken itself up without a prompt and run a forward pass towards some goal, aligned or misaligned?

Yes, I think people do experiment with continuously running AI, e.g.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LLMDevs/comments/1sblzbe/what_i_lea...

It's not a common thing to want though. Much nicer if we control the prompts.

> To me, it’s beyond odd we call these thing agents without acknowledging the clear differences in the dynamics of their behavior.

They're called agents because they can act on our behalf. Which they do.



There is still a prompt in these continuously active agents. As the link says:

“ it runs continuously and makes decisions on its own (within the boundaries you’ve set)”

More importantly, this setup of any other, is feeding in time externally. The agents themselves have no internal sense of time.

Pretty much all of biology has endogenous rhythms at various timescales (some bacteria and archaea, that live very short lives, may not, but even they may have their metabolism under a rhythm. Viruses definitely don’t have one). These rhythms continue to tick even when external time signals (light availability in day vs night being the big one, and tidal forces, for marine life) are removed. That is, in constant conditions, the rhythms keeps ticking.

This temporal awareness is baked into every cell in our bodies. And entirely absent in AI models. Which is why all kinds of higher level things we hear about, like consciousness, feeling, knowledge… they don’t make sense for AI. A foundational aspect of agency in biology has been nixed out and we keep ignoring this.

> They're called agents because they can act on our behalf. Which they do.

That’s not how most AI companies describe their agents. They describe them as being capable of acting on their own behalf.

I get that in computers, you can have, say, a “user agent” that deterministically provides certain information or takes some action on behalf of the user.

AI companies clearly do not mean this when they say their models are “agentic”, otherwise calling them “rogue” would make no sense. A user agent that screws up didn’t do so for its own purposes did it?


Sorry. A continuously running prompt has to be started with a prompt.

That’s what makes it a continuous running “prompt”


I don't see that a human writing a prompt once is fundamentally different to evolution giving us our reproductive "prompt".


Then you don’t understand evolution. Evolution isn’t design. A human writing a prompt is giving specific instructions to an AI model.

No such equivalent prompt saying “reproduce” can be found for evolution. And plenty of evolutions “products” in fact don’t reproduce, by choice or because they don’t find a mate who’ll take em, or because they have fundamental issues in their reproductive biology.

This is all aside from comparing a process that’s played out for about 4 billion years and declaring we’ve matched it because we got some agents to stay active for a bit of time by telling them to and giving them the energy they need, no questions asked. Certainly, evolution doesn’t give us any such comforts to carry out any “prompts” you can imagine it giving us, yet here we all are.


Everyone knows Evolution is a filthy sin made up by anti-Christian’s




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