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Gilfoyle's take on Smart Fridges: > This thing is addressing problems that don't exist. It's solutionism at its worst.
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There is SO much of this in IoT / smart / 2010s-2020s tech.

Recent household BS: music playing out of my thermostat.

Wife tried playing music out of Sonos, but the clunky app was laggy and had also signed her out of Spotify. No problem, you can also just play direct from Spotify app into Sonos speakers. She opens Spotify, selects "Living Room" and next thing you know our THERMOSTAT was playing music.

Neither of us know this was possible, neither of us enabled it, apparently it's existed for years but for some reason Saturday was the day that "Living Room" thermostat beat out "Living Room" Sonos in the Spotify sort order.

There were product managers on both sides of that decision to prioritize enabling such a stupid feature.

I'd pay for it to not be possible. I'd disable it on either/both ends if they had a toggle, which of course they don't. MVP baby.


> There were product managers on both sides of that decision to prioritize enabling such a stupid feature.

Probably not. And that is why it happened - nobody thought about this at all until everything working as designed fails.

That is the thermostat probably is an off the shelf tablet with a speaker that they put other things on to make it a thermostat - this is the obvious thing to do and a lot cheaper than making your own completely custom hardware for this job. The software on the thermostat is likewise off the shelf (probably android) which has spotify in the base install and nobody took it out. Then you set the thermostat to be in the living room - again because that is the obvious thing to do. Finally your wife plays music and spotify sees two devices in the living room and picks one - which happens to be the wrong one but they have no way to know that.

The above is entirely likely and at no point (until know when I point it out) has anybody thought of it.


Wildly its an Ecobee and they added the feature on purpose some years back.

Apparently a firewall rule is about the only way to stop this.


I also experienced this, albeit deliberately. I saw that it was possible, and out of morbid curiosity, enqueued a song to play through it. I immediately questioned why anyone would want it, stopped play, and disabled it. There are settings on the thermostat you can change such that it isn't used for playback or recording.

You know its interesting, the physical thermostat has more settings than the app.

I couldn't find a "disable Spotify" setting, only disable Alexa (already was) and to turn the speaker down to zero (did that).

How did you disable?


Sorry, I was unclear / misunderstood your statement. I haven’t tested this with Spotify, but disabling the thermostat’s mic (Settings / Device Microphone) disables Alexa and Siri implicitly, and also seems to remove it as an AirPlay target, which is primarily how we stream music to Sonos.

Well, they saved Pied Piper in the end. So maybe it was worth it :P




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