On: There's a high chance of devices being sold with GrapheneOS preinstalled in 2027

[ysnp]

I am not too sure about this. There is no company I trust to sell GrapheneOS-preinstalled phones other than GrapheneOS themselves.

[Peacefulz → ysnp]

We are going to be reinstalling GrapheneOS on the phones shipping with it.

[snapplebobapple → Peacefulz]

That's my plan too. I do appreciate devices are coming and will be buying them, but the whole point is to trust custody of the software, which isn't handled by the preinstalled os in any scenario with any os.

[AmazingEveryDay → snapplebobapple]

Well you could always use the GrapheneOS Auditor (hardware-based attestation) to verify. Although simply re-installing is about as much effort.

[preisschild → ysnp]

You can verify the installation integrity via android attestation, which grapheneos uses

[robocat → ysnp]

Preinstalled GrapheneOS would be funded by state Honeypot operators, or potentially thieves or blackmailers.

If you wish to steal from someone, select from a population of thieves since they won't go to the police (although they may use illegal means to punish you).

Going with the stereotype that people doing illegal things prefer a secure OS (and are not smart enough to pick a safe source).

[palata → ysnp]

GrapheneOS is installed with their keys which you can verify, right?