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I've had that looping issue with open models too. But never 4.1. I wonder if it's a model + harness combo? But yeah, one loop issue and I'm done with a model forever.


Harness. Especially if a tool call error doesn't say what to do next and the model is not RL'd with that tool, a retry storm is common.

So if you use MCP a lot, simplify the params, be more lenient on validation and rework the errors.

It is quite good with shell.


Yeah, that's what I'd been leaning towards. No mcp, but I'll see if I can reproduce and debug it, since other people don't seem to have that problem as badly as I've experienced it (and the idea of having a nasty bug like that bothers me).

No mcp support. I'll try copying deepseek harness's basic tool call formats as a starting point.




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