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> He was a sysadmin who built a system

can you elaborate on this ? what were his responsibilities and what role did he have in setting up the system?

He seemed to imply that he helped deploy these systems (though he never authored them), but from his interviews & the evidence provided, I don't even think that was the case. I got the impression he was sort of a backup & storage manager.

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Sysadmin with root who does some scripting. From memory it was something like a number of cron jobs to download from rss-like feeds to a central location, and maybe index them too. Show results on a web page.

Until that time it was difficult to get updates and folks were out of touch because info was too compartmentalized. Later something made him take a peek above his clearance, as the data was there.

He explained it in detail in the book Permanent Record, which is available at the library and/or ingested into a model by now.


That sounds believable.

What's your overall take? do you think evidence was presented to confirm these systems were active around his tenure e.g. 2012? I'm maybe 20% confident they were active.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinThread

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailblazer_Project

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XKeyscore

The first one existed from the 90s. The second was built in response to 9-11, removing privacy protections early 2000s. The third is an interface for searching. As far as I know no one tried to deny XKeyscore exists, then or now.

Snowden built none of these. His document retrieval system allowed him to find out that the programs above were not following the law.


I mean about the historiography, and your personal verdict on whether those systems were active, based on the evidence Snowden provided.

A wiki is a summary, of the available evidence, but from what I've seen, I'm not 100% confident the systems were active and deployed to the claimed maturity level.


I wasn't there and have never had a security clearance. But I doubt Dick Cheney would have been satisfied with a non-functional query system during the war on terror, many years after giving direct orders to build one. Yes, I believe they were active.

I highly recommend the documentary "The United States of Secrets" by PBS Frontline, it digs into this time period and government motivations after 9/11. Usually free on Kanopy.


Star Wars was non functional. It was effective strategically (and led to the USSR's demise, partially) , but totally impotent technically.

It's just as likely that XKeyscore was a strategic public relations effort to intimidate the enemy .


Oh yeah, I remember that.

Believe here that all the tech was available by y2k and security was even worse than now. Just needed the funding and a willingness to break the law, which the govt had in abundance after 2001.




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