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I want a car that doesn't collect the data, not one that gives a pinky promise not to sell still collected data.

When given the choice between privacy and convenience, the great majority of consumers choose convenience over and over again.

I'm not sure what the solution is, but it's not going to be market based if you look at any recent trends. Interest in privacy is unfortunately a niche concern outside of places like HN.

Anyone who has tried to market a privacy oriented product knows what I am talking about.


Is it that the friction to use privacy is too high and not that interest in privacy is actually a niche concern?

I imagine its friction and not indicative of interest itself.


Which brand? And what's to stop them from changing your opt in toggle on after an update as we've seen countless companies do time and time again?

Since 2008 they have not changed the policy. But sure, the policy could be changed if they changed management. Tesla, to answer your question.

Haven't they been caught snooping on customers before with their in car surveillance?

Which brand is that if you don't mind me asking?

Tesla


Thanks for the laugh. Tesla recorded people having sex in their garage.

Sentry mode. A feature that is turned off by default. Then if you turn it on, You still have to opt in to Sentry at home above and beyond that. Then… have sex in your garage, sure, you can do that.

Then, beyond that, it was rogue employees who were looking at that, and they were caught. I don’t know if they were fired, maybe you do.


Rogue employees? There is a rogue CEO who data mined the entire U.S. population with his IT devshop called DOGE and you’re still talking about Tesla and data privacy? If this wasn’t HN I would use an expletive at this point. You can use your imagination, as I’m sure you know what you are. Get lost.

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That’s a lot of words coming from a very angry place. Frankly I’m surprised and disappointed that this hasn’t been flagged yet.

Congrats you free speech absolutist! You got my comment flagged, but the good thing is everybody with above room temperature IQ can infer what a [flagged] comment probably said based on context :)

Found the Musk Stan. It’s perfectly fine to be angry with a political trillionaire who did all of the aforementioned things. Keep being disappointed, that’s going to be your natural state when this dust settles.

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but you agree he's personally responsible for at least like a million though right?

Are you being sarcastic? Hard to tell online. I don’t know the exact numbers, like I said. I know it’s non-zero because of simple logic. That’s all I need to know to form an opinion on the guy.

lol sure - provide their terms and maybe we can believe this trust me bro attitude



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