I'm on hn for 15 years, tbh as someone else said that to you already: thats not ...

I'm on hn for 15 years, tbh as someone else said that to you already: thats not what hn is. At least I wouldn't even expect your two examples on hn.

I would expect them on reddit, kickstarter or hackaday.

Apple always gets quite a lot of tracktion on hn (i don't like it but happens evertime). But lenovo? Framework for sure.