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>I doubt any phone battery is lasting 5+ years.

Just coming up to five years on mine and it is still at 87% capacity.



That is genuinely shocking to hear. You have to be like 3+ sd above the mean. Do you know how many charge cycles you have? I recall that most batteries need replacing after 300-500 cycles.


There's no way that's true. Otherwise everyone's phone battery would need to be completely replaced every 2 years

Edit: I just googled it. Apple claims that the iphone 17 should handle 1000 full charge cycles before reaching 80% capacity


Looks like I am going off old info. Up until the iPhone 14 it was 500 cycles to 80%, 15 and up is 1000.

I also believe apple’s claim is assuming optimal conditions. Real life is going to do a fair bit worse. So likely 700-1000 cycles for 80% if the pattern holds up.


80% doesn't mean the battery needs replacing though


Depends on how you define it. I used “needs replacing” to mean “the average user will feel the battery is not meeting their needs”, which I believe 80% is generally accurate. This can be demonstrated by apple care allowing for battery replacement after the device is below 80% battery health.

If you are using “needs replacing” to mean “the device will be non-functional or risk permanent damage”, you can go significantly lower than 80%. In fact, I think most devices could go down to 0% battery health unless the battery swells.


I don't know but I am very careful not to run it flat and I don't use a fast charger with it. It does get used daily though (more than I would like).


My iPhone 14 Pro is almost 4 years old and at 65% capacity. I don't know how everyone else is (not) using their phones.


I’ve got a 14 Pro Max, used it extensively for four years and got mine at 81%.


I think you are the average case.

I follow the estimate that lipos lose 2-4% capacity per year without any use beyond recharging for safety. If the battery sees daily use that number gets a lot worse.

My guess is everyone else is the perfect mix of hardly any use and winning the battery lottery.


iPhone 11 coming up on 7 years old in December, still at ~85% capacity.

Really it mostly depends on how heavily you use it, and maybe to a lesser extent charging habits (charging slowly, not charging to 100%, etc).


I hear you, but the convenience of 30W charging is very hard to give up. The only downside is it damages the battery, which makes it harder to give up, which damages the battery more.


the convenience of the old usb charging brick that has been plugged in under my bed for 15 years is very hard to give up.


I have an iphone 13mini at 5 years and 81% capacity.


My 13pro is at 84% capacity, but in the last month or two it seems to lose charge much more rapidly than it used to. Probably the only reason I'll consider an upgrade.


Very jealous over here. I had a 12 mini whose battery dropped off a cliff just in time for the mini line to get discontinued.

Big phones are overrated.


You didn't replace the battery[0]?

0. https://www.ifixit.com/products/iphone-13-mini-battery




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