On: 'People are going to get screwed' Pennsylvania voters unite against data centres

[hightrix]

Concerns about noise pollution and increased electricity costs are just morons?

What about concerns about air pollution from unregulated diesel generators? Or using large amounts of water in drought prone areas?

[gruez → hightrix]

All of those can be addressed by proper regulation. Banning them outright is the equivalent of banning all immigration just because there's some particular subgroup that people hate.

[bothers → gruez]

> All of those can be addressed by proper regulation.

No it can't. Regulation is already being flouted.

> Banning them outright is the equivalent of banning all immigration

Please be less obvious, this is just insulting.

[gruez → bothers]

>No it can't. Regulation is already being flouted.

So regulations to ban datacenters work, but for some reason regulations to ban gas turbines or whatever doesn't work?

>Please be less obvious, this is just insulting.

Please be less obvious. You failing to rebut my argument and resorting to calling it "just insulting" is insulting.

[bothers → gruez]

> So regulations to ban datacenters work

Yes, as we see here.

> regulations to ban gas turbines or whatever doesn't work?

Yes, as we've seen elsewhere.

Anything else you're not clear on?

[simondotau → hightrix]

I wouldn’t be so coarse, but mostly yes. Data centres are hardly new, and the subset of legitimate criticisms problems are hardly unique.

[ratelimitsteve → simondotau]

so what you're saying is that the problems people have with new data centers are real and well-documented?

[doublepg23 → simondotau]

> Data centres are hardly new

A commenter below quotes a 73% annual growth rate vs. 23% over the prior decade.

You don't think that'd have an effect on people's perception?

[simondotau → doublepg23]

Perception, absolutely yes.

[beej71 → simondotau]

And physical, objective reality, too.

[simondotau → beej71]

It’s all just feelings, based on observations affected by hundreds of variables entirely unrelated to one particular type of industrial construction.

Start paying closer attention to the news and make note of when facts are cherry picked to suit sentiment… and then ask yourself where the origin of the sentiment is.

[bothers → simondotau]

Damn their lying eyes!

[hightrix → simondotau]

Care to expand?

[simondotau → hightrix]

Others already have elsewhere in this discussion.