Darializa Avila Chevalier wasn't running in 2024, Kamala Harris was, and she was trying as hard as possible to appeal to the right to the point of alienating her base entirely. I don't think "crazy rhetoric" is the reason Trump won so much as the fact that a significant number of Americans simply cannot take a woman, much less a black woman, seriously in a position of power.
Because I'll point it out again, and doubtless be ignored again - there is nothing approaching "socialism" anywhere near the mainstream of the Democratic Party. The Democrats supported Israel. The Democrats don't support abolishing prisons. The Democrats, despite propaganda to the contrary, have never wanted to "abolish" the border. Biden and Obama were both aggressive in their border policies. Hell, Biden tried to fund part of Trump's border wall in 2023.
The only people who are turned off by the Democrats because they're "too socialist" are people who were never going to vote for them to begin with. Everyone else is pissed that they aren't nearly leftist enough.
Supporting Israel and heckling Palestinian protestors, courting the Cheneys and promising to include conservatives in her cabinet, bragging about her guns, etc.
>At some point you DSA types need to give up on the identity politics nonsense. And you contradict yourself. Was it because she was too right or because she wasn't a white man? Is it both? Then perhaps you all need to understand how to win elections and stop whining. Winning means convincing others to vote for your side. 51 > 49, did you know? Literally 0 political movements win by shaming the electorate, believe it or not. Do better.
You're gloating like the Democrats didn't win the popular vote entirely in 2016, didn't win the actual vote in 2020, and the margins weren't razor thin in 2024. Like 51 to 49 is a blowout. Get your head checked, buddy.
And no electorate has been shamed harder that Trump voters at this point.
Really, it's like talking to a Markov chain with you people sometimes.
You need to look up the definition of the word "contradiction." Kamala being too far right and being too black and female isn't a contradiction. And I assume your suggestion for winning elections is, unsurprisingly, be white, be a man and be a right-winger. I'll put that suggestion in the big pile of suggestions that the left only needs to abandon its principles entirely to get anywhere, which you and others like you have so helpfully offered.
>If you think Biden was tough on the border in the first 3 years, I have a bridge to sell you. It was abundantly clear to anyone that they were paralyzed by the far-left faction who wanted them to do nothing.
Again, you're just spouting right-wing propaganda here. It's wild that I'm in this thread with someone named "enragebait" and you're the one showing their ass.
> I can't explain more complicated topics to you.
And there's the personal attack, right on schedule.
>Again, there are many people (myself included) who reject this socialism nonsense.
Given your espoused opinions, you were never going to vote for a Democrat to begin with, so yours is not a vote that was cost. So your opinion isn't really relevant, and can be written off without consideration.
Also, you have no idea how I've voted. The fact that you make such assumptions is all the evidence that shows your arguments are about as strong as a wet cardboard box. What a way to convince people to join your party!
The lack of a coherent border policy from 2020-2023 is.... right-wing propaganda?
Were you alive during that time? I honestly can't tell if you are trolling or just dumb. The border was complete chaos and cost the dems the election. You cannot possibly be this ignorant.
You continue to throw people out of your tent and then try to shame them. You clearly do it for some virtue signaling reason, because it certainly hasn't helped your side win.
You seem to take it as a good thing that you keep losing to Trump by only a little. If your side can't beat Donald Trump I just have no idea what to tell you. Please go touch grass and talk to the medium American voter. Then you'll realize how out-of-touch you really are.
On the race thing... you do the DSA thing, yet again. There are many many non-white, female leaders in politics. Blaming the loss on that is silly and reductive. Do better. It's also insulting to those already in power.
Because I'll point it out again, and doubtless be ignored again - there is nothing approaching "socialism" anywhere near the mainstream of the Democratic Party. The Democrats supported Israel. The Democrats don't support abolishing prisons. The Democrats, despite propaganda to the contrary, have never wanted to "abolish" the border. Biden and Obama were both aggressive in their border policies. Hell, Biden tried to fund part of Trump's border wall in 2023.
The only people who are turned off by the Democrats because they're "too socialist" are people who were never going to vote for them to begin with. Everyone else is pissed that they aren't nearly leftist enough.