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296 points by pompomsheep 19 hours ago | hide | past | favorite | 73 comments
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Wow, this post blew up! Thank you everyone for all the helpful feedback.

I’ve just deployed a few updates:

  - Added a short playable tutorial for new players to learn how the game works.

  - Added a timer below the grid. You can hide this in the settings if you don’t want the extra pressure!

  - Fixed some bonus words based on your recommendations.
Do you think I should add the option to give up and reveal the answers?

Tutorial was great! And I would like the option to give up.

How is the puzzle generation? can you fully automate generating good puzzles or do you tune them by hand?

I really enjoyed this, and hope to continue doing so.


I have it semi automated but I've found they need to be manually reviewed to make fun puzzles.

Basically I start with an 8, 9 or 10 letter word as the core of the puzzle. I then have a generator add random letters and paths around this until it makes a grid with a good number of valid words.

I then run the words though GPT 5.5 which scores them on how "common" the word is to the average person. This is very subjective as everyone has very different vocabularies.

I then manually decide which words to include as core required words or bonus words.

Finally the puzzle is tested by my wife and mum to see if it is "fun" or it goes in the bin haha.


It’s basically Ribbit from Puzzmo, which is fine because reimplementations let you experiment with different gameplay.

https://www.puzzmo.com


Came here to say this, Ribbit is a lot of fun, and Puzzmo in general is a really solid site.

Love the game.

I think it would be even better if each word had an edge only used by the word, such that each successful guess removes an edge and you couldn't guess words twice (assuming each word only has one path).


I enjoyed this and loved the minimal UI, good copywriting, and tasteful animations. My brain gets a little bit stuck on words that I can see but aren’t valid because of a missing connection, but I get that this is one of the main points of the puzzle. Anyway, great job!

The name of the game is confusing, I thought I had to find anagrams and didn't understand how to rearrange the letters

Nice game! I found 20 words.

I was a bit stunned by the concept of "bonus words". I found that every word should count. Also because some words are just plural forms (e.g. stroke+s), so kinda cheep?!

Keep ups the good work!


I think the board (and disappearing letters) are made with a list of words in mind. Thus, to complete the puzzle (dissolve all letters) you cannot count the bonus words as they were not accounted when creating the letter graph.

"bonus words" are often obscure or embarrassing in some way, so you're not required to find them to win

This was definitely a challenge until I figured out how it works. I originally was confused by the connections and started off embarrassingly slow, but once I got a few words and letters started to disappear, I was able to power through it pretty quickly. A solid game. Suggest adding a timed option so users can brag/compare/share their time.


Having made a word game myself[0], this was highly entertaining! Thanks :)

What dictionary are you using?

[0] https://jcuenod.github.io/phrase-maze-poc/


Cool game. Snus isn't in the word list btw

Found six bonus words.


I love it!

But the bonus word (a word most player would miss) on 29/7 was not very subtle. No spoilers, but you won't miss it >.<


Haha just a common bird family. Get your head out of the gutter!

Small songbirds apparently

so i found two bonus words today

I'm stuck. Does that mean I chose the wrong word earlier and used up an essential letter? Does the sequence of word guesses matter? Is there an Undo feature so I can back up and try a different order of guesses? Can I get a hint? Is there a way to give up and see the solution (order of word guesses)?

This was helpful feedback thank you. I've tried to make this more clear with a new tutorial and updataed instructions

You're not stuck, the board only removes letters and connections that are not used by any other word (probably excluding "bonus words"). So the word(s) you're missing are still on the board.

No hint feathre though, the hints are the letters going away. You'll probably have to use a scrabble search or something.


Gemini can solve them if you need a hint or want to give up and see the solution.

the score should include how many bonus words you found (out of how many there were in total) and instead of time it should count how many tries you made because technically you could brute force this and try all combinations. counting each try would eliminate that (for anyone trying to get a high score)

You might make a wrong guess add a little penalty time to the clock.

I agree that the "share" representation should include the number of bonus words found. Or just the triple of "total words / tries / wall-clock time."

It would also make sense to share some kind of metric for "how early did you find the longest word."


Nice, keep up the good work!

Pretty fun, took me about 10 minutes but found 24 words 10 of them bonus. This was #5 for future viewers.

Edit: welp, spent another 15 mins and managed to solve the previous 4. Currently whipping up a custom version for myself that gives a new set of words related to a theme on each solve, love it.


The rules should probably explicitly mention the minimum length of four letters. (It's a reasonable rule; it just wasn't obvious from reading the info in "how to play")

I also must have a weird vocabulary. "Fete" was treated as an uncommon bonus word, which doesn't seem particularly esoteric to me, but "tarragon" was one of the ones I needed to finish a certain puzzle, and I had never heard of that before.

Bonus words for me just now included NITS and TITS! I think the explanation about them being lesser known just confuses; it's more that they're not essential to completing the puzzle.

This is so much fun. And something while playing reminded me of a this video I saw where someone asks her boyfriend "what does Y-E-S spell", and he said "yes". Then she asked him what "E-Y-E-S" spelled, and he couldn't figure it out (he kept saying "eee... yes?"). Anyway, I was looking at the remaining letters with just one word left to go. Four of them formed a word I had already guessed, plus one letter, but didn't make any sense with that additional letter. Until it did. I won't spoil which was it was, but it was in puzzle #1.

Fun! I like how the puzzle naturally gets easier as you solve it. How do you decide which words to include?

Thanks. I use a combination of AI to first score the words by obscurity and then manually decide which ones to include based on this score and my own judgement.

I then manually test each of the puzzles and throw out any that I feel weren't "fun" to solve for whatever reason


Love how the connections disappear once the letter is used up. Feels progressive

Nive work! I solved all five puzzles and only annoyance was the quite a few singular+plural forms in the same puzzle. I expected all unique words.

Loved this, cleared all the puzzles available in one go. Thanks for making and sharing!

Cool that they list the definitions of the words afterwards. This makes it even more fun for non-native speakers, as it adds a free learning aspect to it.

Great puzzle! Is there a way to give up and see all the answers? After 20 minutes or so still have 8 words to find. (Not a native English speaker.)

+1 for this. Also not a native speaker and can't for the life of find the two last words in the #5

You should add a scoreboard! I got zanagram #5 in 3 minutes and 53 seconds. Also found two bonus words

I thought I was slow but now I see others took 10 minutes and 20 minutes! Maybe I'm not so slow!

Zanagrams #5 Complete in 03:53 https://zanagrams.com/


wow, that was fast. it took me 11+, but found 7 bonus ones.

Fun game! On iOS I frequently triggered a double-tap zoom accidentally, and it’s weirdly difficult to zoom back out once that happens (a second double-tap doesn’t work, and pinch to zoom out only works in some areas of the page).

Fixed this thanks!

Zanagrams #6 Complete in 05:53 https://zanagrams.com/

It was fun! I like how unlike the nyt games one, you can get additional information from the edges' existence. Would advise removing having both plural/singular forms of a word. Great work!

Simple and fun, appreciate the definitions! Was wondering about ideas for creating a simple game using the vocab list from my koreader app, but will probably need to be a crossword type game where I need to match definitions with words. This just reminded me of that :)

Very nice! I solved them all in the backyard on a pleasant Sunday afternoon.


I like that it also handles words that aren't planned in. You get a nice "bonus word" popout.

Yeah, I got "TUNS" as a bonus word.

Yeah tuns (a word well known to homebrewers) is not as esoteric as yttria (a word known to.. chemists?)

Not sure how to vote for it, though.

The only thing I would add would be to keep track of the words already found.

It’s there, click on “words”

Great game! I really like how it removes any possible letters or connections. I managed to finish two zanagrams without any wrong answers. It’d be great if there was a way to gain a “perfect” score.

Zanagrams #5 Complete in 22:17

https://files.catbox.moe/fgmb4b.jpeg

Super fun, i found a tons of words and the last 3 ones were really hard to find


Good game. I did not think I was going to be able to make it.

Zanagrams #5 Complete in 11:23 https://zanagrams.com/


Fun game. I found had trouble seeing the color contrast, so I modified the connection color by updating the CSS for .root.tile to #aaffff

Which colors specifically if you dont mind me asking?

Nice! I solved the English and the Spanish versions.

Love this! Added to bookmarks. Wish it had a counter for bonus words so I know if I missed them.

Cool game! Definitely needs the bonus words counter in the shareable results snippet.

Interesting game! Is this an original idea? Is there plan to add "endless" number of zanagrams?

Cool game! Well that’s a sign I need to launch my word game this week if any

Nicely done.

Feels very like Squaredle.

Fun. I could see myself playing this while on the train, etc.

There are a couple of games like this on Android I play:

https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/com.vayunmathur.gam...

https://github.com/plhosk/wordtracer

They're both on FDroid


Very satisfying puzzle!

pretty cool. how are you deciding or generating puzzles ?


Fun game, managed in just over 3 min. How are people taking so long...?



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