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That's a dangerous situation for EU:

- UK would rejoin EU,

- and then, later on, Reform would reach power and undermine EU just like Orban did.

So maybe it would be better to refuse UK its reentry into EU...



A successful rejoin referendum would probably help contain Reform.

However such a referendum is basically taboo in the British public discourse.


The taboo is the notion that the European Union needs to be reformed (no pun intended!). I was a Remainer, and do not regret that, but I hoped the EU would clean house. (Yes, the UK should do as well btw. Scotland should be independent. The House of Lords, Whitehall and Royal Family need a major overhaul.)


As someone who's pro-EU, I'd also really like to see major reforms within the organization.

While it contributes enormously to the welfare of the continent, the EU is by design dysfunctional and toothless.

I'm a pessimist, there is so much money behind the forces that want to see the EU fall apart because small individual countries are easier to buy off, I don't see how we can defend against that.

We'll only know what we lost when it's gone, but then it'll be too late.


> As someone who's pro-EU, I'd also really like to see major reforms within the organization.

What would your reformed EU look like?


What reforms do you want to see from the EU?


IMO, the only thing that will contain Reform is Farage suffering consequences for misconduct. That or being overtaken by even worse people. The two things…


If so, there is some kind of hope.


what does 'undermine' means here? It seems that there is a 'correct' way of thinking, and if you don't play along you're an enemy or a Russian asset or whatever. Not very democratic.


I'm afraid that it looks as if there are plenty of other contenders for those who might wish to undermine the EU, now and in the future.


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Trump would be happy if the UK joins the US. With Canada. And Greenland. ;-)




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