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People can't sell Apple stocks fast enough IMO. Tim Cook seems to have no vision for the future, and "where there is no vision, the people perish."



We have no idea what is in the pipeline at Apple, nor what their "vision" is. Steve Jobs and Apple never came out and announced that the iPhone was in development and that it would revolutionize the tech industry - it just did in 2007.

Let's wait a few years before we decide if Tim Cook is just riding the wave of prior success.


In a few years the market will have already decided.

The signs are out there. The cop-out design of the iPhone 5, the "blue sky" initiative started with the employees -they are scrambling for new ideas.

Steve Jobs was the soul of Apple. His fire is gone. He took it with him.


I look forward to hearing about the fortune you made shorting AAPL in 3 years.


Your thoughts may prove to come true, but R&D is a multi-year undertaking, not something you scramble on at the last hour. The iPad was in development since 2002! Jobs has only been gone for a year. His influence should remain for at least the next five years, and only after that point can we really say if Apple is out of ideas or not.


"Cop out?" Do elaborate.


What does cop-out design mean? That they didn't completely change it?


I always laugh at clueless people who keep talking about current devices like iPad Mini or iPhone 5 as a sign that Apple is dying without Steve Jobs.

Especially when Steve Jobs was personally involved in all of these decisions.


Despite the preconceived opinion you may have of me because of my user name, I am more than happy to discuss the pros and cons of Apple as a company based on real-world analysis, but what you are saying is emotionally driven and not based on anything concrete.


Apple was up $31.30 or almost 6% for the day when I read this comment.


I'm not great with stock charts, but it looks like the stock has fallen from $630 to $550 since October.


AAPL has had plenty of big stock drops in the last decade:

http://www.asymco.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Screen-Shot...

Apple makes more money now than it ever has, so the current drop isn't necessarily more or less predictive than the previous drops have been.


I disagree. We have no idea what is in the pipeline. Every time I have heard Tim speak about his 'vision of Apple' it seems quite similar to what Steve had in mind.

We have no idea what sort of products they have in the pipeline.

They have a TON of cash.

Steve Jobs was just a man. His vision flip flopped all the time. Apple is slow and very methodical in its product decision making. They make very precise decisions, and often these product directions are mocked initially, but that eventually changes.




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