On: Mindfuck Movies

[tortilla]

Good list. I'd add Oldboy (Korean) to that list.

[akeefer → tortilla]

Awesome, awesome movie. Not for the faint of heart, though.

Let's hope that Will Smith and Steven Spielberg don't actually go ahead with remaking it (http://www.imdb.com/news/ni0615340/). What a travesty that would be.

[electromagnetic → akeefer]

One question though, if the Korean movie did in fact 'cause' the Virginia Tech shooting, like I've heard before (I like that IMDB plays it light), then what happens when this movie is recreated in English and thousands of emotionally unstable white kids gets a hold of this?

[jacquesm → tortilla]

does 'the usual suspects' count or is that too mainstream ? Brazil ?

[swivelmaster → jacquesm]

Brazil! Brazil!!!!!

One of my favorite movies.

And a serious mindfuck.

[unalone → swivelmaster]

That final sequence is one of my all-time favorite. Gilliam at his best, directing-wise.

[Angostura → unalone]

I loved Brazil, but I still have a soft spot for 12 Monkeys.

I also like the fact that both films feature tiny parts for Simon Jones, the original Arthur Dent.

[unalone → Angostura]

Man, now I absolutely have to see the original HGTTG. Was that the radio one or the TV bit?

I also haven't seen 12 Monkeys, unfortunately. My experience with movies is sadly lacking, and the sheer number makes picking a good starting point paralyzing. (I still haven't seen Citizen Kane, which has been on my computer forever.)

[jacquesm → unalone]

The original hitch hikers guide to the galaxy is the radio series as broadcast by the bbc on radio 4 in 1978, after that there were the books starting in 1979, the tv series in 1981, and finally the movie in 2005.

[almost → jacquesm]

There was a new series to the radio play fairly recently. Just for anyone who missed that.

[Angostura → jacquesm]

Both the Radio and the TV series had Simon Jones as Mr Dent.

[swivelmaster → unalone]

Citizen Kane is absolutely one of the most justifiably hyped movies of all time.

[captainobvious → swivelmaster]

For its time, sure, but the problem is the hype hasn't stopped. It is great if you are a film buff, but not so great if you just like films.

[SwellJoe → captainobvious]

Not merely "for its time" (as though films have improved dramatically over time, like computers and womens bathing suits), and I'm stunned that anyone who likes movies doesn't like Citizen Kane. Citizen Kane is a great film, and an enjoyable film...watching it is not like doing homework, and there are only a handful of movies that I've found more enjoyable or satisfying.

[unalone → captainobvious]

Let me ask you: why do you make your text fixed-width? It's got to be a conscious effort because you do it repeatedly, and it makes the rest of us cranky.

I haven't seen the movie yet, and for the record? "Just like films" means nothing. Unless you're fascinated in the art of filmmaking - if you're a "buff" - it doesn't count. I have friends who "just like films" who watch The Notebook and American Beauty and cite those as "incredible films", and that just doesn't count. The people who really like films are the ones who get deep into them.

But I haven't seen Citizen Kane, so I'll withhold judgement.

[alecco → unalone]

The best Gilliam-mindfuck is Tideland. Just amazing.

[trezor → jacquesm]

The usual suspects counts more as a movie where you have the OH THAT MAKES SENSE feeling at the end of the movie rather than pure mindfuck.

While you will have to rethink the whole movie once you've reached the end, you are left with some sort of answer. Some of these movies on the other hand, like Memento, will make you wonder WTH really happened for hours and days after actually watching it.