On: Java 26 is here

[gf000]

And a fat runtime with a garbage collector. Like people can write all sorts of programs with a GC, that was never the issue.

But then just stay truthful, otherwise C# is also a system PL.

[owlstuffing → gf000]

"Fat" runtime? Go? Nah.

Go's runtime is thin: goroutines, a GC specialized for concurrency, networking, and little else. Java, by contrast, assumes a JVM plus massive stdlibs to handle everything from enterprise apps to big-data, making its platform genuinely "fat" and layered. Other Java-tier languages, C# included, follow the same model.

[zadikian → owlstuffing]

I agree Go's runtime is as thin as runtimes get. But having a runtime at all disqualifies it from being a C replacement. Rust is trying to replace C, Go is trying to replace Java and some of C++.

[gf000 → owlstuffing]

Even Rust has a runtime. Compared to that Go's is absolutely fat though.

[lucyjojo → owlstuffing]

java has had profiles for an eternity and multiple jvm implementation. it can get really really thin.

also has modules now.