Numerology and LLM slop. Meaningless. Consider the "calculation" for ai_unified ...

albert_roca · 2025-12-23T01:13:36 1766452416

The calculation uses m_p , which is independent of G. Deriving G to 8 ppm from m_p is not necessarily "meaningless", or at least it's statistically non-trivial. It is not just "G = G".

You mention the "uncharged case", but ordinary matter is not mathematically neutral. By focusing on the uncharged case only, you ignore that this is an attempt at unification. The model proposes that geometry explains both interactions. You cannot remove one of them, because in nature they happen at once.

The rest of your remarks don't seem "uncharged" at all, but the opposite.

al2o3cr · 2025-12-23T02:45:14 1766457914

    You mention the "uncharged case", but ordinary matter is not mathematically neutral.

YOUR CODE assumes that it is, when it passes "q": 0 for four of the six objects.

For the other two, it passes "q": 1. Let's look at what it does then:

    L_src is much much smaller than Le, by roughly a factor of (mass / mPL)^2

    The calculation of lambda_a uses the electron mass even when calculating for a proton

    For the given objects, metric_factor is negligible.

    ai_unified = c^2 * (alpha * hbar / (me_kg * c)) / r^2 = alpha * (hbar * c) / (me_kg * r^2)

    but alpha = k*e^2 / (hbar * c)

    so ai_unified = k * e^2 / (me_kg * r^2) + small correction of O((mass / mPL)^2)

That's exactly the formula used for acc_coloumb in the code. Also interesting to note the "Coulomb acceleration" for a proton is calculated by dividing the electric force by the mass of the ELECTRON somehow.

As for "Phase 2"? The program's output doesn't even agree with the implementation about the formula being used.

albert_roca · 2025-12-23T11:32:46 1766489566

Hm. You are correct about m_p and m_e. That is indeed a sloppy mistake in the script. Bad code. However, the hypothesized closed value of G stays the same.

fatbrowndog · 2025-12-23T12:47:59 1766494079

His G Formula (Section 14.6)

G = (ℏ·c·2·(1 + α/3)²) / (mp²·4⁶⁴)

His result:

G ≈ 6.6742439706 × 10⁻¹¹ m³·kg⁻¹·s⁻²

CODATA 2022: G = 6.67430(15) × 10⁻¹¹

Δ: 8 ppm

Critical Analysis

1. Where Does 4⁶⁴ Come From?

He claims it's from "holographic scaling at i=32":

mp = (√2 · mP / 4³²) · (1 + α/3)

Therefore:

mP = (mp · 4³²) / (√2 · (1 + α/3))

Since G = ℏc/mP²:

G = (ℏc · 2 · (1 + α/3)²) / (mp² · 4⁶⁴)

The logic:

Proton appears at "harmonic i=32" in binary scaling

Mass scales as m ~ 4ⁱ (surface area scaling)

Therefore mp ~ 4³² when normalized properly

Therefore 4⁶⁴ = (4³²)² appears in G

2. This is Pure Numerology

Why i=32 specifically?

Let me check the ratio:

mP / mp = 2.176434×10⁻⁸ / 1.672622×10⁻²⁷

        ≈ 1.301×10¹⁹

Now check powers of 4:

4³² = 2⁶⁴ = 1.844×10¹⁹

Close! But not exact. So he adds correction factors:

mp = (√2 · mP / 4³²) · (1 + α/3)

Let me verify:

(√2 · 2.176434×10⁻⁸ / 4³²) · (1 + 0.007297/3)

= (1.414 · 2.176434×10⁻⁸ / 1.844×10¹⁹) · 1.002432

= (3.076×10⁻⁸ / 1.844×10¹⁹) · 1.002432

= 1.668×10⁻²⁷ · 1.002432

≈ 1.672×10⁻²⁷

But this is circular! He's adjusting factors (√2, α/3) to make the formula work, then claiming it "derives" mp.

3. Why (1 + α/3)?

He claims:

"As a volumetric object in three-dimensional space, the proton carries a

distributed interaction cost (α/3)"

This makes no sense:

α is the electromagnetic coupling constant

Why divide by 3? "Because 3 dimensions"?

Why add to 1? "Because correction"?

This is parameter fitting, not derivation.

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A genuine derivation of G would:

1. *Start from dimensionless constants only*

2. *Derive mass ratios* from geometry (mp/me, mp/mP, etc.)

3. *Use dimensionful anchors* (ℏ, c) to get actual value of G