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> Then you wouldn't have 3G cellular. Or 4G. Or 5G cellular.

I don't get it. Why would making a standard freely accessible impede its adoption?





Yeah, I'm curious about this too. I would think that making a standard freely available (and at most doing what NVMe does where you pay membership dues) would make the standard be adopted far more universally than putting up weird barriers to even access the standard.

    > and at most doing what NVMe does where you pay membership dues
No trolling: What is the difference between "pay[ing] membership dues" and paying a fee to access the standard (docs)? To me, they feel the same.

Honest answer (since your not trolling): The difference is more of time than anything else. If I somehow find $5000 to buy access to the PCIe spec, my understanding is that it's per access request. NVMe doesn't charge at all for their specifications; instead, you can join for just $500 per year last time I checked.

He's claiming they wouldn't be developed because why develop a standard you can't cash in on.

Which is silly, specifically for telecoms, because get don’t make their money on the standard, they make it on providing the service.

In the telecom world, that would be a pretty terrible business model, as the list of entities who would need a copy of the standard is relatively short.

The people developing standards are in the business of developing standards. It makes sense to want to make money on the thing you work on.

> The people developing standards are in the business of developing standards

Are they? Usually these standards consortiums are composed of the companies that develop products based on the standards, where their products gain value from having a standard (a Blu-ray player and a TV with no way to connect them together is worth less). Even if they couldn't gatekeep the standards they would still have developed them out of necessity.


There is no business developing standards. All the technical parts are written by engineers from the various companies wanting to implement the standard. All that's left for the standards association is to host a mailing list and potentially organise some in-person meetings. And hosting the resulting PDF doesn't exactly cost $4000 / download either.

That's what patents are for. The handful of standards that actually cost money to produce (i.e. MPEG, 3GPP, LTE etc) have patent holders that are specifically required to provide "fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory" licensing terms. If paywalling the spec paid for those standards we wouldn't have had a decade of HTML5 video not specifying a baseline codec.



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