>Isn't the logical endpoint of this equivalent to printing out a Stackoverflow answer and manually typing it into your computer instead of copy-and-pasting?
Isn't the answer on SO the result of a human intelligence writing it in the first place, and then voted by several human intelligencies to top place? If an LLM was merely an automated "equivalent" to that, that's already a good thing!
But in general, the LLM answer you appear to dismiss amounts to a lot more:
Having an close-to-good-human-level programmer
understand your existing codebase
answer questions about your existing codebase
answer questions about changes you want to make
on demand (not confined to copying SO answers)
interactively
and even being able to go in and make the changes
That amounts to "manually typing an SO answer" about as much as a pickup truck amounts to a horse carriage.
Or, to put it another way, isn't "the logical endpoint" of hiring another programmer and asking them to fix X "equivalent to printing out a Stackoverflow answer and manually typing it into their computer"?
>And I pick Stackoverflow deliberately: it's a great resources, but not reliable enough to use blindly. I feel we are in a similar situation with AI at the moment.
Well, we shouldn't be using either blindly anyway. Not even the input of another human programmer (that's way we do PR reviews).
> Isn't the answer on SO the result of a human intelligence writing it in the first place, and then voted by several human intelligencies to top place? If an LLM was merely an automated "equivalent" to that, that's already a good thing!
The word "merely" is doing all of the heavy lifting here. Having human intelligence in the loop providing and evaluating answers is what made it valuable. Without that intelligence you just have a machine that mimics the process yet produces garbage.
>The word "merely" is doing all of the heavy lifting here"
That's not some new claim that I made. My answer accepts the premise already asserted by the parent that LLM is "equivalent to printing out a Stackoverflow answer and manually typing it into your computer instead of copy-and-pasting".
My point: if that's true, and LLM is "merely that", then that's already valuable.
>Having human intelligence in the loop providing and evaluating answers is what made it valuable. Without that intelligence you just have a machine that mimics the process yet produces garbage.*
Well, what we actually have is a machine that even without AGI, it does have more practical intelligence than to merely produce garbage.
A machine which programmers than run circles around you and me still use, and find it produces acceptable code, fit for the purpose, and possible to get it to fix any potential initial issues in a first iteration it gives, too.
If it merely produced garbage or was no better than random chance we wouldn't have this discussion.
Isn't the answer on SO the result of a human intelligence writing it in the first place, and then voted by several human intelligencies to top place? If an LLM was merely an automated "equivalent" to that, that's already a good thing!
But in general, the LLM answer you appear to dismiss amounts to a lot more:
That amounts to "manually typing an SO answer" about as much as a pickup truck amounts to a horse carriage.Or, to put it another way, isn't "the logical endpoint" of hiring another programmer and asking them to fix X "equivalent to printing out a Stackoverflow answer and manually typing it into their computer"?
>And I pick Stackoverflow deliberately: it's a great resources, but not reliable enough to use blindly. I feel we are in a similar situation with AI at the moment.
Well, we shouldn't be using either blindly anyway. Not even the input of another human programmer (that's way we do PR reviews).