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You‘re reading strange things into my factutal statement that Yahya Sinwar was part of the last big exchange. He‘s been in jail for abducting two Israeli Soldiers AND MURDERING FOUR PALESTINIANS.

Seems like this time, his ratio was even worse.



“factual” is correct, but it’s anecdotal, not a statistic and hence bears no relevance here. Your comment is phrased in a way that implies this past anecdote should dictate future decisions, I disagree.


How is this not relevant? Israel doesn't really want these prisoners because they cannot extort them like Hamas. Although they did release some quite horrible terrorists here. I guess they just want them to go away.


sorry, my mistake, it’s relevant, but anecdotal. It is not relevant for *decision making*. One should not make decisions based on individual cases and anecdotes, it should be based on data/stats.

Even if building a statistic, including this one case, „let’s not relieve any palestinian prisoners, ever“ is not an option. What about „there could be a future terrorist in the midst of the prisoners, hence let’s let the remaining israeli prisoners die, because keeping that one terrorist will save more than 20 lives“? Do you see how problematic sacrificing people’s lives based on a some hypothetical is? And I am not even mentioning the freedom of all other non-terroristic palestinians…

But I guess, after so much death, so much pain, I don’t expect hate to become less any time soon. Maybe one day. Germany and France killed millions of eachother’s civilians yet managed to make peace one day – the big difference is, both had clear borders and autonomy.


Feel free to add your high-quality data about mass amnesties of islamic terrorists to the discussion! I'm curious about what you can come up with and keep an open mind to be convinced by your statistical rigor.

But until then, I'd like to remember you of something most people asking for statistical evidence often forget: it's nice to be right if you have statistics available. If you don't have any (viable) statistics, it's much more important to not be wrong than to be entirely right: you don't need to have any data to know that jumping out of an airplane at an altitude of 2km without a parachute is a very bad idea. You also wouldn't ask for a double blind peer reviewed study that confirms a 100% death rate of people doing that. And you wouldn't dismiss the one story about the one guy having done the jump as "anecdotal".


I never said I have data, I said what you are mentioning is anecdotal.

I know it’s easy to be a critic, but I think it’s important to remember what is statistically relevant and what is not. Might sound very harsh and cold considering the topic we are discussing, I understand this.

The analogy of jumping out of a plane is really a false equivalence: there is logical, physical, reasoning, as to why that would be a bad idea. Statistics is not the only option. Extrapolating a decision affecting hundreds of thousands of people from a single occurrence is, in my opinion, never a solution.


So murderers should be released from prison because not all murderers murder again, and if some of them did on the past that’s only an anecdote?


I’m confused: I wrote we should no generalize from a single case and you’re doing that again.




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