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Historically, it's been the case that a relatively small percentage of men have monopolized the available women of their time. Perhaps the most famous example of this was Genghis Khan, to whom something like 1 in 12 men in Asia and 1 in 200 men globally carry Y chromosomes linked to him.

It is only somewhat recently that many first-world societies moved towards more egalitarian, monogamous marriages.

However, dating apps are a big step back towards the original state of human relationships: a small cohort of men gaining the attention of the vast majority of women. The remaining men have few, if any, options, much like it was in the distant past.

Marriage law hasn't yet changed to catch up, but marriage rates are also decreasing.

Can you really blame someone destined to be permanently single for indulging in a fantasy relationship? Is it really much different than someone playing video games where they get to be the hero in a virtual world?

I think I'd prefer single men indulge in fantasy relationships than the time-honored alternative of radicalization and violence, at least.



> Historically, it's been the case that a relatively small percentage of men have monopolized the available women of their time. Perhaps the most famous example of this was Genghis Khan, to whom something like 1 in 12 men in Asia and 1 in 200 men globally carry Y chromosomes linked to him.

Bible (2000 years old) is heavily pushing monogamistic relationship from a simple practical reason - horny man is angry man, angry man is aggressive man and a group of aggressive men can completely destroy whole society. Polygamist societies are rare and unstable. If over supply of men is not used for military expansion, then they will collapse society from inside.


Seriously, who could think it’s a good idea to setup society so that access to sex is reserved for whichever small group of men can violently triumph over the rest?


I'd say at least some of these are people who take their cues from watching nature and see it work somewhat similarly for "revered" animals (eg: lions, bears, bulls, rams, etc).

This is in no way an endorsement of that kind of thinking (or even saying that these folks are even right about what happens in nature).


That’s why the stories of genghis khan seem like bullshit to me.


> Is it really much different than someone playing video games where they get to be the hero in a virtual world?

No, it's not different at all, and that's exactly why I call it a mental illness.

You don't need to be a hero, and you don't need to find a girlfriend in someone who swept right. Go outside! Talk to some woman walking her frikin' dog. Even if she's not single, I bet she knows someone who is.

The human species propagated itself in this way for 10s of thousands of years. You don't need a dating app, you need to get up from the frikin' computer and face the real world.

In human tradition, men have chosen women for their looks, and women have chosen men for their ability to raise their social status. Sad but true, and brutally self serving in a world that has been brutal overall.

If you don't find yourself in possession of the looks, wealth, or social status that cause women to flock to you, try this: look for a woman that expresses interest in you, instead of a woman that somehow meets your ideals of the perfect girlfriend.

I can only say this as a person who spent decades pursuing women based on my ideals, and in the meantime allowed numerous opportunities to escape with women who would have been life long relationship partners.

To paraphrase: If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with...


> look for a woman that expresses interest in you

My goodness, what an idea! Why didn’t I think of that?




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