On: Apple barely talked about AI at its big iPhone 17 event

[mdotk]

I think it's more because they're way behind on AI and they literally have nothing to actually tell us.

[kergonath → mdotk]

They’re not way behind on AI, they’re way behind on LLMs. Several features they presented depend heavily on AI.

[fsckboy → kergonath]

whatever Siri is, they're way behind on it. Siri has gotten siriously worse, Siri has fallen behind Siri.

(of course can't speak to this new release, obviously)

[kergonath → fsckboy]

No objection for me. I haven't used it since 2016 or so. I did not try it on the beta.

[runako → mdotk]

As an Apple user, what are they behind on? What features are other makers shipping that Apple is missing?

(Genuinely curious, perhaps there are third-party apps I can use to bridge the gap.)

[xnx → runako]

Apple fans would be going crazy with excitement if Apple unveiled Gemini 2.5 Flash Image (AKA "nano banana"). It's the most powerful image editing tool since Photoshop 1.0.

[runako → xnx]

Pardon my ignorance, but is this part of Android or a standalone app?

Is it something that is not usable on Apple devices?

[xnx → runako]

It powers part of the Google Photos app on Android. It can be used on Apple devices through Gemini, but it is not well known yet.

[adastra22 → xnx]

Probably because Google marketing is the worst. Wtf is “nano-banana.” This is straight out of a Silicon Valley HBO skit.

[xnx → adastra22]

I can almost excuse them for not hyping this too broadly because of how disruptive to certain jobs it will be.

[vbezhenar → runako]

You need to spend a week to disable all AI features in Pixel. You need to spend just a day to disable all AI features in iPhone.

[acdha → mdotk]

How are they behind, in terms of things normal people actually use? Apps like ChatGPT work just fine, and I have literally never heard an Android user I know personally talk about something they can do which isn’t available on iOS.

[frizlab → mdotk]

That’s not true. There were multiple AI features presented, just very well-known ones like the babel fish AirPods Pro. Nothing fancy, but it’s still AI and it’s useful.

[micromacrofoot → mdotk]

in some ways (hardware) they're ahead, their dominance in mobile chip power lets them do a lot more machine learning on-device

also hard to find a better laptop for running an LLM locally too