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"the act of training is in itself infringing, even if it doesn't result in a copy"

"I'd be happy to take "reasonable level of fidelity" + yes, the act of training itself as infringing to a jury"

They're not the same thing. At all. The comparatively few that are [extractable] should be fixed. I already said that.

The vast majority of texts CANNOT BE EXTRACTED. Are they still infringing?



Oh, I'm aware that they're not the same. I suppose I'm thinking more like a "real-life lawyer."

At this stage, you can't just declare "infringing or not," thats the point of trials.

What I'm saying is -- you make good points -- but I like my chances in front of a jury with my explanation against yours.


This might be of interest, if you haven't already seen it: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77vr00enzyo

Could be reversed by a higher court of course, but it seems like it establishes that pirating and training are two different "crimes". (Or three - see the bit about "infringing knock-offs").




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